Buick and Jaguar beat Lexus in quality??

73ss454 said:
So, are you trading in those Honda's now?
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One never knows.....:) The ONLY Buick I like right now is the Enclave. The LaCrosse and Lucerne look too "old" for me. No way do I fit the demographic of Buick, an average age of 63 or so........:)

I already told DW my next car will be a wagon, and she almost fell off her chair........:LOL:
 
What about the mid life crisis Jaguar? Think you'll look good in that?
 
73ss454 said:
What about the mid life crisis Jaguar? Think you'll look good in that?
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Yes, but I hate Jags. However, Audi, Acura, BMW, and Mercedes are appealing. Too bad Mercedes is abysmal in the reliability department. I see a LOT fewer Audis than any other luxury brand around. I think 20% of all cars in my beighborhood are Acura TL's.......:LOL:
 
It's good to see an "American" car on top of a reliability list for a change.

Does anyone else find it surprising how much the reliability studies vary between the companies who produce them? One thing to point out is this study was only for cars made in 2006.
 
FinanceDude said:
One never knows.....:) The ONLY Buick I like right now is the Enclave. The LaCrosse and Lucerne look too "old" for me. No way do I fit the demographic of Buick, an average age of 63 or so........:)

I already told DW my next car will be a wagon, and she almost fell off her chair........:LOL:
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What did you think of the new LaCross due this fall (bailout willing)? There's a thumbnail in your link, but here are some better views...........
NAIAS 09: 2010 Buick LaCrosse - GM Inside News Forum
 
I've pretty much sworn off US cars. It's a shame, really. My Mazda was made here in the US, but it's a Japanese design. Reasonably good luck so far, but it doesn't stack up to any Toyota or Honda I've ever owned.

If I were to purchase some Detroit iron, it would be a 10 year old Le Sabre or similar with low mileage. Plenty of protection, little to lose out in traffic and easy to insure and get parts for. If anything goes wrong, a bullet between the headlights will be a merciful end.

I really do hope the Big Three can be saved (for the jobs if nothing else) but I won't be the first in line to buy one of their products, sad to say. Of course, YMMV
 
bank5 said:
It's good to see an "American" car on top of a reliability list for a change.

Does anyone else find it surprising how much the reliability studies vary between the companies who produce them? One thing to point out is this study was only for cars made in 2006.
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Part of my job at Mega Motors was to analyze these surveys doing call backs to customers that had taken the survey. It was pretty eye opening to see how all over the map the responses are. Customers are for the most part not very technically oriented and a single problem can get reported in a multitude of categories, which are additive. From one company to the next the questions are different and even the wording can make a difference in the response. You can really see this for products that are "twins" - cars with the same everything but grill and tail lights yet the scores are significantly different.
 
Did anybody stop to think that perhaps Buick customers are just too old to figure out that anything is wrong with their car? Their standards might be lower, anything is better than having to hand crank the model T.
 
saluki9 said:
Did anybody stop to think that perhaps Buick customers are just too old to figure out that anything is wrong with their car? Their standards might be lower, anything is better than having to hand crank the model T.
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:LOL::LOL::LOL:
 
bank5 said:
It's good to see an "American" car on top of a reliability list for a change.

Does anyone else find it surprising how much the reliability studies vary between the companies who produce them? One thing to point out is this study was only for cars made in 2006.
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The study uses the number of issues in the first three years of ownership as a measure. As such, it would be difficult to state results for a car less than 3 years old:)
Kudos to Buick and Jaquar/Ford. Very nicely done.
Lexus still holds number one in a number of categories. So while they were beat, they haven't nosedived.
For me, quality is much more on par between domestics and foreign. The biggest decision maker for me is fuel efficiency and/or availability of all electric vehicles.
Personally, I am pulling for ALL auto companies to deliver on that.
 
Zathras said:
The study uses the number of issues in the first three years of ownership as a measure. As such, it would be difficult to state results for a car less than 3 years old:)
Kudos to Buick and Jaquar/Ford. Very nicely done.
Lexus still holds number one in a number of categories. So while they were beat, they haven't nosedived.
For me, quality is much more on par between domestics and foreign. The biggest decision maker for me is fuel efficiency and/or availability of all electric vehicles.
Personally, I am pulling for ALL auto companies to deliver on that.
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Don't forget about RESALE value. USED car sales of domestics are deals. Heck, when ya throw $8,000 rebates at the front end, it doesn't help the value hold up...........

Until GM and others get folks to buy their cars without selling them for $5000 below invoice, they will still have problems........
 
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