How to deter theft of your car or home when away?

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If I were to purchase a condo and leave for a month or more at a time, what is the best way to deter theft of my auto and the property in my condo?
I've looked at a few websites, but am not certain what is really worth the money and what isn't.

If the car stays in the same place day after day, surely, someone with mal intent will realize I'm not home. This, naturally, scares the heck out of me.
What security protection works best for protecting the auto during long periods of being away--other than taking the battery out?

What security protection works best for securing the condo for theft? I do know I can buy a piece of equipment that will turn lights on and off in the condo, but what else really works?
Any ideas:confused:?
 
Believe me, as another woman living alone I can relate to your concerns.

I guess you could buy a condo in a high rise with a central lobby with security, where anyone cannot just walk in and go on up to your door.

Another idea is to buy a condo where you either have a personal garage where your car is hidden behind a closed garage door, or else a condo that has a big parking area that everyone parks in, so that your space is not right in front of your apartment. If the spaces weren't assigned, so much the better.

My brother looked at a condo in Ft. Lauderdale some years ago that seemed pretty good to me for a traveler. It was a high rise condo which had a doorman in the lobby. Parking was in a HUGE parking lot outside, with no assigned spaces. You wouldn't necessarily get a space near the building, but there were always plenty of spaces and nobody would know if the occupants of your condo were there or not. They had some sort of arrangement for bringing in groceries and other items, including 5-10 minute parking by the door and their own grocery carts that you could borrow and put back when you were done.

Also, you can have the post office hold your mail.
 
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Maybe you could leave the keys to your car with a friend/neighbor who could occasionally move your car to another parking spot.

Consider leaving a radio on while you're gone - not so loud as to bother your neighbors, but loud enough to make a potential burglar at your door think someone could be inside.
 
1) if you can, park your car in a personal garage or a parking garage restricted to residents.

2) It depends on the kind of condo you are looking at. If you live in one of those upper floor condos, then the front door is obviously the weakest point and you should secure it as best you can, probably with a multi-point lock.
 
I think about security, too, as I also live alone. Do you have someone who can house sit for you a month at a time? I put my mail on hold when I travel, and alert my neighbors so they can keep an eye out for suspicious activity and pick up any unwonted solicitations that might be hung on my door knob or thrown in the driveway. Good doors and locks are a must. Make sure all windows are locked. You can put some lights on a timer; also consider a security system. I have thought about motion sensor lights but have not gotten around to it yet. My gardener comes in the winter to shovel my walks and my driveway so even if I am away, the house doesn't look empty. My cars are always in the garage, even when I am at home.
 
My MIL lives in a condo complex that, to the best of her knowledge, has been crime free for the 17 yrs she has been living there. I'd say these attributes have helped bring that about:

1. No renters. All occupants are owners of the condo they live in.
2. Indoor, underground parking requiring a swipe card to enter.
3. Single door entry from a hallway to her condo has high quality locks.
4. Lots of nosy, geezer neighbors who call security at the sight of someone loitering inside they don't recognize.

Lots of stability of owners who have a penchant for looking out for one another seems to be the key. MIL says it's extremely rare for her to see anyone down in the parking garage, in the lobby or in a hallway that she doesn't know or isn't walking directly to a condo after being buzzed in the main entrance.

I don't think I could live there but she feels secure and the situation seems to work for her.
 
The biggest points have already been covered, but I think a couple are worth repeating:

Knowing some neighbors who can kind of watch the place.

Having those neighbors or a friend pick up flyers, etc from your door. Nothing says "NOBODY'S HOME" like a bunch of flyers on your door. A place with controlled access shouldn't have those, so that would be good.

I really think getting one with a garage for your car is worthwhile. Or, maybe you could return a storage garage for your car. Or find a friend who has room to keep your car and even drive it once a week.

A light on a timer, and a radio set to talk radio (voices) next to the door is a good idea too.
 
Insurance ... if they want to get in; they'll get in. Just make sure you insurance coverage will make you whole (minus a deductable).

Then lock-up and forget about it.
 
Though I don't live in a condo, I take certain precautions when we travel. I have a couple of lamps on timers that are set to come on and go off at the times they usually do when we're home. My one neighbor has keys to our house and cars, and checks the house daily...sometime more than once if the weather is excessively cold or stormy. He also moves the car ocassionally just to make it look as if we're home. He collects our mail and puts it in the house each day, and waters our house plants as needed.

The neighbor on the other side of us also watches our place for anything out of the ordinary. And both neighbors know our itineraries and have our cellphone numbers. In the winter, one of the neighbors will shovel the snow, and in the summer I have one of our neighbor's kids mow the lawn if it needs it.

Also, our outside porch lights have built-in motion sensors on them. And since we always take a short trip or two around the Christmas holidays, our outside Christmas lights and decorations are on timers that come on at dusk and shutoff 6 hours later...whether we're home or on the road. We also unplug everything that isn't necessary....leaving only a couple of lights on timers, the refrigerator and freezer, and a couple of night lights plugged in.

We do everything possible, within reason, to make it look like we're home and living our normal day to day lives. And we only tell a very limited number of our friends or family that we're going away. The fewer that know, the better.....that greatly lessens the chances that the 'wrong crowd' will find out, and make the most of the opportunity to burglarize and/or vandalize in our absence.
Insurance ... if they want to get in; they'll get in. Just make sure you insurance coverage will make you whole (minus a deductable).

Then lock-up and forget about it.
Yeah, and what tryan said about the insurance.

Then just go on your trips and enjoy yourself...worry free!!! Because even if something does happen...you're not there to do anything about it anyway. Like I heard a guy on the TV the other telling the story of a preacher friend of his, whose church was broken into and vandalized while they were several hundred miles away on a trip. Someone called him and told him about it, and he said "OK. You contacted the police? The Insurance? Secured the place? OK then, I'll deal with everything else when I return." He went on to say that his preacher friend said "Come on....let's go to the grocery store...I'm hungry for some grapes." When he questioned him, his friend said "Listen....I'm here, NOT there....there's nothing I can do about it right now. So let's go to the store so I can get my grapes, and we'll enjoy the rest of our vacation....THEN when I get back home, I'll deal with those things."

That's the attitude that I've developed over the years....it wasn't easy getting to that point....but I rest easy now on vacations, and don't worry about anything!
 
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My mom lives in a condo and knows the neighbors pretty well (mostly older ladies with eyes glued to the peephole). Her condo was burglarized a few months ago. They used a hammer to pop the locks. They broke in in the middle of the day. Her next door neighbor, 30 feet away, was home all day when it happened and she didn't hear a thing either. The police questioned people in the building and no one saw or heard anything. I had asked her to strengthen her front door and locks but she resisted. Her building restricts access to residents (coded lobby door) and she felt that the neighbors would be watching out for each other. But, one of her neighbors left the coded lobby door wide opened that day and made the crime possible.

People often get burglarized when they least expect it. My aunt's purse was stolen from the kitchen table while she was making her bed (they went though the backyard and broke the back door). One of my high school teacher's home was burglarized while she was having a dinner party (they broke through the front door and stole all the purses and wallets while guests were having a blast in the backyard). And people broke into the home of MIL's neighbors while they had popped out for a quick milk run (they backed up a truck into the garage and loaded it up with the flat screen TVs and computer). In all cases, no one saw anything out of the ordinary.
 
This might not work too well with a condo, but where I live, we can call the police (non-emergency number :) ) to tell them we'll be gone and that no one should be in the house, and the police patrols put you on their vacation drive-by list and sort of keep an eye on it. Possible that someone checking the house would notice the police's interest and move on to the next unoccupied place.
 
Our method is to not own anything valuable that anyone would want to steal. Or at least not to leave it behind when we are gone.
 
With a condo, other than good door and window locks, and perhaps an alarm system if you think that's worth the expense, that's about all you can do. My way of thinking is that it doesn't make sense to spend $2,500 on an alarm system to protect $1,500 worth of (portable) stuff. The others have made good suggestions re timers and stopping mail, etc.

For the car, if it is outside taking the battery out is probably the best you can do but that's a pita and you have to reset everything from defaults when you put it back in. If you're going to be gone for more than a month the battery should be on a maintenance charger anyway.

If it's worthwhile to you, consider a self-storage unit (around here ~$30/month) that will fit a small car.

Make sure your insurance is paid up and then just go play. If anything happens there's nothing you can do about it from 1,000 miles away.
 
Our last few cars had a chip in the key that meant you couldn't hot-wire the car to steal it. Seems like this would prevent stealing unless someone had the right keys with them. Is this not effective? Doesn't anyone else have this?

And our car will make a lot of noise if someone tries to break into it. We had a smashed window once and someone took what was right next to the window but the noisy alarm must have made them run off because there were a lot of other things in the car more valuable than what was next to the broken window.

Audrey
 
Good neighbors, good insurance and to my mind the most important is good location. Check the crime index for any area before purchase and go thru the adjoining areas as a zip code can be fairly small in geographic terms. Insurance agents can help as the companies rate base on crime stats by zip codes and many spillover problems can be identified in advance. This can be crucial in re-development areas and downtown business districts. What has a low crime rate in a downtown predominantly business highrise setting can be just a waiting duck for after dark issues.

Also, if not private garage parking consider what your car says. Expensive brand new can say I have way cool stuff vs a few years older and modest which may say I'm ok but my stuff isn't worth a lot. Also, majority of breakins are just opportunity.
 
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You can always take the coil wire out of your car, unless you have direct ignition or a diesel. Thats the wire that goes from the coil to the distributor cap. Car will turn over all day long, but will never start.

"The Club" is also recommended by some cops.
 
Any more?
I surely got a few ideas I'd never heard of let alone thought of...thanks!
Any alarms I can buy for the house? Or for the car? That are worth the money that is...
 
The two I like the idea of, but have never used, are the barking dog alarm Electronic Watch Dog barking dog alarm and the tv light timer Amazon.com: Fake TV Burglar Deterrent - TV light Simulator, Makes Your Home Look Occupied: Home Improvement.

We;ve got dogs, and even though they're little yappers I never worry about anybody breaking in when we're not home. And I tried to set my TV to come on via a timer at the townhouse, but new TVs don't return to their last setting if the power is interrupted. But I think a (real or fake) TV coming on in the evening is an excellent deterrent to anyone who is casing a place.
 
OrchidFlower, are you planning something soon?

I live alone in a 13-unit apt. bldg. and make it clear to all who will listen that I have nothing worth stealing, and then bore them with the story about the time my place was broken into but nothing was taken. By coincidence, I’m spending the day doing home handyperson jobs (poorly). I claimed a storage closet and put a lock on it more to deter curious neighbors than to prevent theft; only excess junk will go into that closet. A friend spends evenings with my cat when I’m away. And renter's insurance is sure to prevent problems.:rolleyes:, so far, so good. My neighbor who doesn't have insurance gets robbed all the time, or so she says.
 
The one time i called the cops to report i would be gone (puffed up little college student that i was) I got ripped off. This was in Santa Fe NM many many years ago. Can't even remember what they stole - cops came out and sprinkled carbon dust or some such all over the place "dusting for prints". The funny thing was i didn't think they would visit - when they said they were coming out i had to run and hide my smoke out in the desert. Could have made the files of America's dumbest victims! I'm with the if they want it it's gone crowd - and it doesn't even have to be worth much - had parts stripped off an old Mustang around the same time and we're talking $10 junkyard battery, junkyard mismatched tires, that sort of thing. With the rise of meth head thieves reason plays no part at all.
 
We had a small crime spree in our residential neighborhood in the western suburbs of Chicago last year. 3 or 4 break-ins over a few months. The PD sent letters to everyone inviting us to a meeting at townhall to discuss, so I went.

Very interesting. The PD took the position that "neighbor awareness" was the biggest deterent to break-ins. They encouraged us to meet and talk with neighbors we didn't know. Despite being here for 32 yrs, this applied to me since other than the houses on each side of us, the other neighbors are relative newcomers being here only a few years, maybe a decade. Then they went on to plead for us to:

1. Call the PD if we see any activity such as a van parked in a driveway that looks suspicious or someone walking through yards. There shouldn't be anyone just loitering or walking around checking things out.

2. Call the PD if a solicitor rings your bell and doesn't have a permit clipped on. The town is very stingy with these permits. Ringing bells like a salesman is apparently a classic way to give your front door a good once-over.

3. Work with your neighbors to watch each other's houses. Since our immediate neighbors on either side are long time friends and we're familar with each other's habits and schedules, this works well for us.

4. Don't accept strangers being in the area because you're embarrassed to call the PD. (They emphasized that again and again.) If something doesn't look right, call. Someone casing the area being challenged by the local PD apparently is discouraging to them. Crooks prefer neighborhoods where folks reside anonomously and strangers move about unquestioned.

All this changed some of my responses to things I see. I've called to report solicitors with no permit several times and it's satisfying to see a police cruiser picking them up within a few minutes to give them a ride out of town. They probably check their ID too, but I don't know for sure. And I called when a plumbing company van was parked in my neighbor's driveway across the street one afternoon. I know they both work and the two kids are in day care. That turned out to be legit but the officer who came out told me repeatedly to do the same thing if it happens again.
 
Very interesting. The PD took the position that "neighbor awareness" was the biggest deterent to break-ins. They encouraged us to meet and talk with neighbors we didn't know.

All this changed some of my responses to things I see. I've called to report solicitors with no permit several times and it's satisfying to see a police cruiser picking them up within a few minutes to give them a ride out of town.
DING! DING! DING! (CFB, your royalty check is in the mail)

Cops dig getting calls on suspicious people. Even when it's a totally bogus thing (although we may roll our eyes a little and laugh about you later), it's what we do. Given a choice between jacking up a potential burglar and writing six burglary reports after the fact, we always opt for jacking some dude up. Even if he doesn't go to the gray bar hotel, just checking him out beats paperwork all hollow.

Okay, burglary 101 sez that most burglars are usually sneaky bastards with a drive that makes them take bold action (usually the need to hit the pipe on a regular basis). Most of them learn their trade the same way most of us learned ours, by learning from others and then on-the-job training. Most burglars figure out what works and then they stick with that. I'll be lazy and cut and paste something that I wrote for another forum:
...you're correct that not all burglars are lazy or stupid, in fact, many of them are neither. But while sophisticated burglars will have sophisticated methods, they don't run to the overly complicated. Burglaries, especially residential, are easy to commit; and, successful burglars go with what works and don't try to reinvent the wheel.

The rules to being a proficient burglar have always been to not be seen, to stay away from occupied residences, and pick places that are easy to get into without being observed. With computerized fingerprint databases become more common, a smart burglar knows to wear something over his hands to keep from leaving identifiable latent prints behind. With surveillance cameras everywhere I would think that hiding one's face might become mandatory as well.

A sophisticated burglar is one who does an excellent job on target selection. Mostly obeying the three rules above, but it can also mean picking targets where it is known (or believed) he can find high dollar items for which he has a ready market. He'll also be really proficient in making a quick entry and he'll go directly to where he can find what he's looking for (people always put stuff in the same places, even the stuff they're trying to hide) get it and get gone.
There is no place that is burglar-proof, the best you can hope for is to deter him from hitting your casa and going on to burglarize your neighbors' house. By knowing what Mr. Burglar is looking for in a target, and what he doesn't want to see, you can encourage him to take his dope-fiend self on down the street to greener pastures.

You want Mr. Burglar to look at your place with his experienced eye and mumble to himself "Ah, that's too big a pain in the butt".

Alarm systems can be a decent deterrent, but know that many, many, many burglars are not afraid of residential alarms. They know, as do cops, that 95% +/- of residential alarm calls are no good. So that means that cops (unlike what the alarm company commercials depict), don't throw that donut down and jump up to run with lights and siren to your alarm going off. The burglars know that in spite of the alarm going off they have a good bit of time to do the deed and get away.

I have an alarm system for two reasons: To deter the easily deterrable and to wake me up if the very rare cat-burglar comes along (or the not-quite-so-rare-anymore home invasion robbery goes down). I want a few seconds to grab a gun and be prepared to defend the family and I dread the idea of waking up to a gun in my face.

Hardened entry/exit points are a must. Good solid doors, with good locks, set in a strong frame are a must. Double cylinder deadbolt locks, with a "throw" of at least 1 inch (about the best you will ever find is 1") in a sold door (not hollow core) is good. How to Buy Door and Window Locks | eHow.com

For windows accessible from the ground floor I recommend secondary window locks. YouTube - DIY Home Security System : Window Locks for Home Security

Sliding glass doors are a gift to burglars everywhere. They are easily secured, but many people never bother and thus you might as well have a sign on it proclaiming "Welcome Thieves!" How to Secure a Sliding Glass Door - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com

Whatever locks you have - make sure you actually use them. You would be surprised how many people who live in homes with attached garages will leave the door leading from the garage into the house unlocked. Burglars know this and they know how to get into your garage. Leaving the door unlocked for them is guaranteed to make you feel foolish later.

Good neighbors who will keep an eye on your place and call the police if they see something suspicious are a fabulous thing. When to Call the Police / Police Department / Decatur, Alabama, USA

Do an inventory of your stuff and maintain a copy off premises. This is good policy in case of any kind of loss (fire, storm, flood) and not just burglaries. With an inventory you can make a more accurate and complete claim to the insurance company. You would be surprised how many people suffer a loss and don't have a clue about the make or model of many items. Having an inventory with a list of serial numbers is bestest of all - most police departments monitor what is sold/pawned in their area and check serial numbers against state/national databases of stolen property. Without a serial number your stolen TV will never make it into a database.

Doing an inventory might also make you realize that you have some high-value items in certain categories that are above the schedule for insurance reimbursement (jewelry often requires an inexpensive rider to boost the covered value).

If you want to be a real crime-prevention nerd you can inscribe your driver's license number on high value and/or easily pawned items that don't have serial numbers (like tools). Make sure to include the state abbreviation, my tools all are marked: TX DL 123456789. That way, if a police officer runs across some dirtbag with your non-serialized stuff, he can run your name as a complainant and see what was stolen in your burglary, or he can even contact you and ask about your drill and Craftsman wrenches that he ran across.

Here's a bonus that I learned from another detective when I went to his house to play cards. On his front door he had a homemade sign:
Shift worker/Daytime sleeper. Please don't ring bell or knock!
If you want more help, check with the police as most agencies have crime prevention officers who will come to your home to evaluate it and give you specific recommendations. In many states, if you meet the standards you get a certificate that is good for a mandatory discount on your homeowner's insurance premium.
 
We're getting some invaluable information here...so many thanks!
When I lived in Bellaire (inside Houston city limits separate city), I did have the Police out to check for safety AND they did offer an engraver to mark your stuff. I wonder if this is standard operating procedure for most communities? I loved it, anyway.
And when I got a new back door to the house, the locksmith told me for safety get a steel door, so I did. Since I was robbed totally in Chicago once, I know it can happen to any of us...and usually in the hours from 9 a.m to 3 p.m. from my research.
 
A friends house was hit twice in 4 months. Never anything big taken ... just jewlrey, small electronics and cash (a coin jar). "Had to be kids" (I told DW) ... "they can't bring home a flat panel TV or new stereo".

So last week they busted 10-12 teen agers in a theft-for-drugs ring in a neighboring town. Maybe things will change for them now.
 

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