50% of Americans can't even come up with just $2,000 in an emergency given a month's time.
Got $2 000 in a pinch?- MSN Money
Got $2 000 in a pinch?- MSN Money
This topic was posted a couple months ago: http://www.early-retirement.org/for...icans-are-56257.html?highlight=emergency+fund
And they still don't have $2000...
My sister and brother in law would fall into this group. They make about $200K per year combinded, live in a low cost of living area, yet carry huge amounts of credit card debt with no real savings outside pension, 401k. They waste a lot (perhaps most) of it spoiling their 3 kids. They have every gadget and toy known to man (ipads, 4-wheelers, a boat)etc.....but can't afford a minor emergency or unexpected expense without putting it on their credit card.
I blame part of the societal aspect of this in the U.S. on our tv shows. Many of today's show glamorize the consumption mindset and make people believe that is how everybody lives.
In the WSJ today it showed the mediun net worth of households by race - white=$113,000, hispanic=$6,300, and black=$5,600. And this is NET WORTH, not savings.
What's wrong with that? I buy virtually everything now with a credit card. These days, I'm able to pay all my credit card bills as they come due, but a few years ago, I got about $20k behind -- but I could still buy stuff, emergency or not. I think credit cards are wonderful.... but can't afford a minor emergency or unexpected expense without putting it on their credit card.
What's wrong with that? I buy virtually everything now with a credit card.
They make about $200K per year combinded, live in a low cost of living area, yet carry huge amounts of credit card debt with no real savings outside pension, 401k.
What's wrong with that? I buy virtually everything now with a credit card. These days, I'm able to pay all my credit card bills as they come due, but a few years ago, I got about $20k behind -- but I could still buy stuff, emergency or not. I think credit cards are wonderful.
Quite sad indeed. Do they realize the financial situation they are in ?
I think credit cards are wonderful.
C'mon, don't get jerked around, both of you understand that credit cards are a wonderful payment convenience whether they're used responsibly or not.What wrong with that? Are you serious?
C'mon, don't get jerked around, both of you understand that credit cards are a wonderful payment convenience whether they're used responsibly or not.
We provided both our kids with credit cards with $500 limits when they went to college, and after they were both burned by late payment charges or over the limit charges, they cut them up, and in their 30's still don't have a credit card.
When I went to college, My bank had a deal that included a checking and savings account and a VISA credit card with a $100 credit limit.
That $100 limit was supposed to teach you to use credit sensibly.
My primary point was not the convenience of credit cards or the features of debit cards or the responsibility of their owners, but rather that you're being jerked around.At times it is certainly convenient but I can use my debit card just as easy when I need to buy something online or pay for a purchase that I don't have enough cash on me to pay for...but that is a different topic that has been debated before on here. The point of the post is they needed to use their credit cards because that is the only way they have to pay the bill.
I understand that point, but I disagree. When I got behind on my credit card accounts, I kept my checking account as close to zero as feasible, since I wanted to use all my cash to minimize interest on my credit card debt. It didn't make sense to me to keep money in cash for an emergency, when (1) that cash was costing me in extra interest on my credit card, and (2) I didn't need the cash for emergencies, because I could use a credit card for that. When you have a CC and good credit, it seems to me to be bad advice to keep an emergency fund in cash.The point of the post is they needed to use their credit cards because that is the only way they have to pay the bill.
I'm pointing out to you that a good thing about CCs is that they make it unnecessary to have a cash fund for emergencies.
stoutboy said:The standard advice is to carry an emergency fund that can see you through 8-12 months of expenses. If you've got a credit limit equivalent to a year of your salary, your income is likely so high as to make an emergency fund largely an option. For most people, however, an emergency fund is very necessary. And last I checked, there are no exorbitant interest charges when paying in cash.
Probably I wasn't clear about the interest concern. Suppose you're in the hole on your CC account, and you manage to get $500 ahead of expenses some month. You could keep the $500 in cash to bolster your emergency fund (earning negligible interest on it) or pay down $500 of CC debt that month saving the CC interest charge on $500. As a consequence of your decision to put $500 into a cash fund for emergencies, you have to pay a high rate of interest on the $500 which remains a part of your CC debt.And last I checked, there are no exorbitant interest charges when paying in cash.