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MichaelB 10-05-2012 07:41 AM

Poll: Curmudgeons - Nature or Nurture?
 
Do people become curmudgeons later in life, or are they born that way and it just takes so many years to strip away the pretenses?

W2R 10-05-2012 07:46 AM

Interesting question!

It seems to me that as we grow older, and have less time left in our lives, we are less likely to be patient with others (especially with those who waste our time). This can lead to curmudgeonly behaviors.

But then, some people acquire curmudgeonly traits at a relatively young age. :) So, there could be a genetic component. I voted "not sure".

REWahoo 10-05-2012 07:56 AM

Not sure on the nature vs. nurture question, but I like this description from How to be a Curmudgeon:

Quote:

...the curmudgeon is a mature person who has taken the time and intellectual effort to reflect upon and critique the world and the way it is constituated and has concluded that, given half a chance, they could run things a heck of a lot better.

Have you ever seen TV commercials trying to get you to part with your savings and invest in some stock or commodity? The tag-end of the thing says, “Past performance is not a guarantee of future returns.” The curmudgeon knows that past performance is about all you got to go on. When people say, “Things are different today,” the curmudgeon knows that the medicine show might be new but they’re sellin’ the same old snake oil.

In short, a curmudgeon is a realist of the highest order, not only seeing things the way they are, but the way they have been and most likely the way they’re gonna be.

Nemo2 10-05-2012 07:59 AM

a curmudgeon is a realist of the highest order, not only seeing things the way they are, but the way they have been and most likely the way they’re gonna be.


+1

Chuckanut 10-05-2012 08:32 AM

Maybe it is a medical condition?!?!?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irritable_male_syndrome

Testosterone and Mens Health | Male Menopause | Dr Frances Pitsilis

How to handle a grumpy old man - Mens Health - Health In Focus - smh.com.au

Or maybe we just enjoy being that way!!!!

http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/c/curmudgeon.asp

DFW_M5 10-05-2012 08:45 AM

I think its all those crazy other people that make us that way;D

HFWR 10-05-2012 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemo2 (Post 1237049)
a curmudgeon is a realist of the highest order, not only seeing things the way they are, but the way they have been and most likely the way they’re gonna be.


+1

+2

As I always say, "If you're not cynical, you're just not paying attention."

marko 10-05-2012 09:00 AM

I"m an angry old man now. I used to be an angry young man.

cute fuzzy bunny 10-05-2012 09:21 AM

Its whichever one I feel like it being at any particular time, goddammit!

I used to be a lot cheerier before I got married.

rescueme 10-05-2012 09:38 AM

I am what I am (an angry old man) due to my life, and the things I endured (and still do so), along the way.

Many would say that I'm sorry for myself. To them, I would say just walk a day in my shoes (and many of the days I endured along the way)...

The term "life sucks, and then you die" certainly applies to me. I long for peace....

zinger1457 10-05-2012 09:39 AM

Having been retired for 2+ years and being a member of a private golf club where about 80% of the members are 60+ years old it has struck me how many of them complain of the most minor issues. I think part of the problem is that many of them just don't have enough activities to occupy their free time. Had to laugh when one day we were crossing the street going from one green to the next tee and there was a group of young school kids walking by and overheard one of them say to the others "keep quiet because the golfers here are a bunch of mean old crabby people".

antmary 10-05-2012 09:50 AM

I voted for category #2. As I have gotten older, and my estrogen went away, that, well, changed my outlook. I took off the hormone-ridden rose colored glasses. I changed from I'm OK and you're OK - to I'm not OK and you're not OK, and that's OK!

easysurfer 10-05-2012 09:56 AM

I voted the "have a nice day option." Though, if there was an option of middle of the road, probably a combination of both nature and nurture, I would have chose that.

Life give you lemons :laugh: and 1) you make lemonade or ) why the heck did life give me lemons!

MasterBlaster 10-05-2012 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelB (Post 1237042)
Do people become curmudgeons later in life, or are they born that way and it just takes so many years to strip away the pretenses?


You post like becoming a curmudgeon is a bad thing ?

Bestwifeever 10-05-2012 10:09 AM

I'll go with born that way and like many personality characteristics, intensified with age.

bbbamI 10-05-2012 10:16 AM

I think some people were weaned on a pickle.

steelyman 10-05-2012 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W2R (Post 1237045)
It seems to me that as we grow older, and have less time left in our lives, we are less likely to be patient with others (especially with those who waste our time). This can lead to curmudgeonly behaviors.


I voted "not sure" as well, because it wasn't clear which of the two choices were nature or nurture. And I'll make an opposite point which, that while it is true we have less time as each day passes before they place us 6 ft. under, we have more time each day that remains once the demands of work are gone, so I think for many that leads to more patience and "c'est la vie".

bssc 10-05-2012 11:05 AM

Another vote for angry old people who used to be angry young people.

HFWR 10-05-2012 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbbamI (Post 1237111)
I think some people were weaned on a pickle.

Make mine a dill!

cute fuzzy bunny 10-05-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbbamI (Post 1237111)
I think some people were weaned on a pickle.

Is that some sort of euphemism?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rescueme (Post 1237098)
To them, I would say just walk a day in my shoes

I'll give it a whirl. I'll be a day away from you, and I'd have your shoes. Are they nice? I could use a new pair.


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