Were the Nuclear Protesters Right?

Should I listen again? I didn't hear Kaku saying either directly or by implication that there would have been a nuclear explosion if seawater had not been used. He said that northern Japan might no longer have been habitable, and I took him to be referring to contamination.

That's the usual cognitive jump folks make when hearing about a reactor problem, and someplace becoming uninhabitable.

The contamination from the Fukushima plant is pretty much already a worst case for this type of reactor and containment. Northern Japan was not lost, or rendered uninhabitable.

There was this tsunami last March, though, which caused a tremendous amount of damage, and a horrifying number of deaths. Please, please folks, don't forget about that.

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Decay heat for a uranium or MOX reactor starts off at 6.6% of the previous sustained power level and drops off on an exponential function from there, to 1.5% after an hour, down to 0.2% after a week.

(...)

Oh, I do have a degree in physics, and taught reactor plant operation for two and a half years. I think I was fairly successful at it, as Nords and Gumby never did manage to vaporize central Idaho... :greetings10:

Aha. I was starting to wonder if you were running a clandestine reactor in your basement. :)
 
Great. So now second-guessers won't be satisfied until we also consider what would happen if operators repeatedly do dumb things?


Well, people do tend to make a lot of mistakes. Human mistakes (dumb behaviour, if you will) are involved in most accidents, nuclear and other.


Three mile island:

"There wasn't enough coolant in the core, so the Emergency Core Cooling System automatically turned on. This should have provided enough extra coolant to make up for the stuck valve, except that the reactor operator, thinking that enough coolant was already in the core, shut it off too early."

"There still wasn't enough coolant, so the core's temperature kept increasing. A valve at the top of the core automatically opened to vent some of the steam in the core. This should have helped matters by removing the hot steam, but the valve didn't close properly. Because it didn't close, steam continued to vent from the reactor, further reducing the coolant level. The reactor operators should have known the valve didn't close, but the indicator in the control room was covered by a maintenance tag attached to a nearby switch. Because the operators didn't know that the valve had failed to close, they assumed that the situation was under control, as the core temperature had stopped rising with the first venting of steam from the core. They also thought that the coolant had been replaced in the core, because they didn't know that the pump outlets were closed"

"A few minutes later the core temperature began to rise again, and the Emergency Core Cooling System automatically switched on. Once again, an operator de-activated it, thinking the situation was under control. In reality, it was not."

"Soon, because of the coolant lost through the open valve at the top of the reactor, the core temperature began to rise again. At this point the fuel rods started to collapse from the intense heat inside the core. The operators knew something was wrong, but didn't understand what it was."



Chernobyl:

"What caused the accident? This is a very hard question to answer. The obvious one is operator error. The operator was not very familiar with the reactor and hadn't been trained enough. Additionally, when the accident occurred, normal safety rules were not being followed because they were running a test. For example, regulations required that at least 15 control rods always remain in the reactor. When the explosion occurred, less than 10 were present. This happened because many of the rods were removed to raise power output. This was one of the direct causes of the accident. Also, the reactor itself was not designed well and was prone to abrupt and massive power surges."

Source: http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/texts/nuclear_disasters/nuclear_disasters.html
 
I'm no "science popularizer", but I can't resist a good chance to explain a tough concept.

Hmm. My (admittedly layman's) understanding of nuclear physics is that...
Yes, you have a layman's understanding. But unless you're also a string-theory physicist who fools an adulterous ex-politician "anchor" that he knows what he's talking about, then you still have credibility.

... in the absence of a neutron "brake" (eg., the control rods), the reaction will occur uncontrollably.
It can. What usually happens a few microseconds afterward, though, is that the resulting rise in power overheats the system until things boil & melt. The components (including the uranium fuel) tend to fly apart from this pressure/heat, which spreads out the fuel. The geometry becomes once again a sub-critical mass. There are still plenty of neutrons and fission products, but the nuclear reaction is no longer critical.

In fact, even with the "brake" fully applied (the control rods fully inserted, absorbing a large percentage of stray neutrons), the nuclear fuel still generates an enormous amount of decay heat (7-10% of full capacity). So much so that they still need to be cooled by being completely immersed in water. And that water gets so hot that if it were not in a sealed pressure vessel, it would be boiling. In fact, in cases where the water level dropped and the water did in fact boil, even the tiny "voids" in the water (the bubbles) were enough to compromise the cooling effect of the water, and overheating occurred.
True.

"Nucleate" boiling (water phase-transforming into small steam bubbles forming on the metal surfaces and quickly detaching) is an extremely efficient way to transfer heat. It'd be great if we could control it. Unfortunately it usually mutates into "departure from nucleate boiling" where the water heats up and transforms into sheets of bubbles that grow into steam blankets around the metal surfaces, greatly reducing heat transfer and allowing the decay heat to melt the metals. We can't reliably keep NB from turning into DNB so we try to avoid both of them. Usually the only way to get things back under control is to raise the pressure to collapse the bubbles back into really hot (but not quite boiling) water. If the pressure vessel has holes (or if all the high-pressure pumps are out of service) then you can't keep pressure high enough to control/avoid boiling. Nukes get really upset about losing pressure control because the DNB means heat can no longer be effectively removed from the core.

My point is that even with the control rods fully inserted, the reaction is still occurring. If the cooling agent (water) drops below the tops of the fuel rods, they overheat and melt, even when only producing "decay" heat. Thus, the reaction is "sustained," even after the geometry of the fuel rods disintegrates into a puddle of molten uranium.
Semantics issue. The fission chain reaction has stopped and quickly subsides. The decay of the fission fragments continues, which is still a heat-removal problem, but that's not fission. That's just decay.

As I understand it (and again, I'm no physicist), the only requirements for a sustained fission reaction is proximity/density of fuel, and absence of a neutron absorber.
Incorrect. Proximity/density is one requirement, and absence of a neutron absorber is another. But the uranium's fission neutrons usually fly out of a nucleus with too much energy to be absorbed by nearby uranium nuclei. The neutrons zip out of the fuel mass and don't sustain the chain reaction. The trick is to slow the fission neutrons down enough to allow nearby uranium nuclei to absorb them. This is done by letting the neutrons ricochet around enough to lose some energy. The best ricochet material is hydrogen atoms, and there are two of them in every water molecule. So the fission neutrons zip out, bang around in the water molecules until they lose enough energy to slow down, and then smack into another uranium nucleus with just the perfect amount of energy to be absorbed to cause a new fission.

The proximity and number of hydrogen atoms is critical. Just messing with their density will disrupt their ability to slow down the fission neutrons. If the core heats up the surrounding water, the water molecules try to spread out and they let too many neutrons escape. So as a core's fission raises its power and heats the water, the water lets more neutrons escape and the fission reaction levels off. This negative-feedback loop in a pressurized-water reactor is what lets the nukes control the core's power.

In a molten state, at the bottom of the reactor chamber, I would expect that both of these conditions would be met, and the reaction would indeed be sustained indefinitely.
Nope. Definitely not enough water around to slow down the fission neutrons. Fission stopped as soon as the water boiled, but decay heat generation (and a lack of heat transfer) started the melting. Of course the melting leads to boiling off the water and the loss of even more heat transfer, so the molten mess gets hotter. Lots of decay fission products are gases, and if the mess stays hot then it keeps offgassing radioactive fission products which eventually leak out of the containment vessel. So even though there's no more fission, and even though decay heat is dropping off (eventually), nukes still have to get excited about cooling the molten mass to stop the offgassing.

I'm not sure what you mean here - you seem to be saying the water helped facilitate the fission reaction. My understanding is that the water actually discourages the nuclear reaction (by absorbing stray neutrons, preventing them from perpetuating more reactions), in addition to providing a cooling effect to avoid meltdown.
Water does both. In the right core geometry, pressure, and temperature, it will help slow down fission neutrons to create more fissions.

In a big cooling tank, without the right core geometry ("critical mass"), the water slows down neutrons as always. However those neutrons don't find a nearby uranium nucleus in time to keep them from experiencing more water collisions and slowing down to the point where they can no longer cause a fission. Or the neutrons slow down enough to get captured by other materials (like the hafnium in control rods, or the boron in core poisons) before they get to uranium atoms.

Sure, but I believe that that "decay heat" is itself a fission reaction, and in the absence of a cooling agent, will generate enough heat to reduce the fuel to a molten state.
Another semantics issue. The fission products are still spewing off parts of themselves but it's usually in the form of neutrons, high-energy electrons, gamma rays, and alpha particles. Nothing like the big chunks that come from a fissioning uranium nucleus.

To be fair, we're talking about dramatically different amounts of nuclear fuel here. The amount of raw nuclear material in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs were about the size of a softball. The nuclear reactors in question contain much, much more fuel than that. Also, the bombs were only able to fission about 10% of their material before being dissipated too broadly for the reaction to continue. Left undisturbed, the reactor core material will continue to fission to a much higher percentage, unless we can extract it and separate it from itself.
It's not just the "amount", but also the density of the U-235 atoms and their geometry.

In the 1930s everybody knew how to fission U-235. It just wasn't sustainable, the same way today's laboratory fusion reactors aren't sustainable. The problem was purifying enough of U-235 into a big enough ball to cause the fission chain reaction to be sustainable instead of a short-lived "fizzle". The only effective way to purify the 0.7% of U-235 from the uranium ore (mostly U-238) was by the centrifuging banks developed at the Oak Ridge labs (and duplicated all over the world today).

Commercial nuclear reactors can be built out of natural uranium. Geologists even discovered a formation in Africa where a rich uranium deposit was soaked in water in just the right conditions to cause a "natural" chain reaction-- but one that quickly melted the formation and ended the fission. Navy nuclear reactors use an unbelievably highly purified U-235 fuel in a very small space which, ironically, is that much more easily handled by the control rods and the surrounding water because of its small size.

So "left undisturbed", the core material will fission, but it usually produces enough heat (and pressure) to mess up its geometry. In effect it separates itself and can no longer maintain criticality. The big challenge for weapons designers is using unbelievably high pressures to keep the critical uranium together long enough to cause all of it to fission-- even a couple of microseconds makes a difference.

Again, I'm not a physicist, everything I just wrote could be completely wrong. :)
Like the physicist, it's enough correct information with enough comprehension errors to cause all sorts of confusion.

This stuff ain't easy. A fission chain reaction is a combination of physics and chemistry complicated by thermodynamic heat transfer. It happens so rapidly that even the math defies analysis and is dependent on statistics & probability.

The learning process is brutal and Darwinian. I graduated pretty high up in my USNA class and still got beat up by Admiral Rickover before he grudgingly admitted I might be worthy of the chance. My six months of nuke power school class lost 20% enroute graduation, and that was just classroom lectures & essay tests. By then I was middle of the pack. My six months of shore-based nuclear power plant training was in upstate New York (even back then we actively avoided M_Paquette's Idaho classroom) for more studying, essay exams, and watchstanding. By then I'd sunk down to the lower third of the pack and I actually failed a final exam. (Two of my classmates put themselves into psychiatric care during this period, and were no longer with us.) I managed to pull it all together by my final boards and graduate, but I was not among the sharper tools in the shed.

Confirmed masochists like Gumby tired of the Navy and entered the civilian nuclear power industry, where they were treated like nuclear newbies and made to suffer the training & qualification process all over again. Because those civilian designs have different physics, chemistry, and thermodynamics characteristics than the Navy plants-- let alone the different control systems and missions.
 
So, no nuclear explosion possible, some local contamination problems, and one heck of a mess to clean up on site. Nothing as hideous as Chernobyl, where there was no containment, and the actual fuel matrix (graphite) was on fire!.

I've listed to the video again. Kaku says that if seawater hadn't been poured in, melted uranium would have plunged on the floor probably causing a steam explosion/a hydrogen gas explosion, blowing the lid of the whole thing and then you "would have had Chernobyl".

So, indeed no nuclear explosion.

Three reactors, the old GE BWR models there, with the cores completely melted down (the industry slang is corium), won't sustain a fission reaction. The careful geometry needed to sustain a reaction is lost. The water, which slows neutrons to the point where they can be captured and sustain a fission reaction was lost.

I just read this elsewhere (possibly inaccurate):

"In a complete reactor meltdown, the extremely hot (about 2700� Celsius) molten uranium fuel rods would melt through the bottom of the reactor and actually sink about 50 feet into the earth beneath the power plant. The molten uranium would react with groundwater, producing large explosions of radioactive steam and debris that would affect nearby towns and population centers."

Some argue the molten core can't get in contact with ground water, because the reactors have a "core catcher" that prevents molten core from getting out.

Now I do hope that Fukushima I has a core catcher, but that doesn't seem to be certain. It's a BWR-3 and construction started in 1967.
Rumors that Fukushima doesn't have one have been circulating for months. John Beddington says the Fukushima reactors don't have a core catcher but says the effect of a meltdown could be an explosion that sends materials 500m high (in Chernobyl it was 10km), so it wouldn't fly farther than 20km (bad, but not as bad as Chernobyl).

Northern Japan is pretty big.

Indeed.
 
I've listed to the video again. Kaku says that if seawater hadn't been poured in, melted uranium would have plunged on the floor probably causing a steam explosion/a hydrogen gas explosion, blowing the lid of the whole thing and then you "would have had Chernobyl".

So, indeed no nuclear explosion.

No steam explosion. The hydrogen explosion actually happened. That's what blew the roof off over the top of the containment and the spent fuel tank. TEPCO failed to do the ventilation retrofit recommended for these plants when the risk of hydrogen accumulation was identified.

A molten core won't melt through the bottom of the reactor vessel. To have the case of "melted uranium would have plunged on the floor" would require a shear failure removing and displacing the bottom of the reactor vessel, along with the containment base and the suppression ring vanishing.



I just read this elsewhere (possibly inaccurate):

"In a complete reactor meltdown, the extremely hot (about 2700� Celsius) molten uranium fuel rods would melt through the bottom of the reactor and actually sink about 50 feet into the earth beneath the power plant. The molten uranium would react with groundwater, producing large explosions of radioactive steam and debris that would affect nearby towns and population centers."

That won't happen. There's not enough stored heat and decay heat energy to do this. The old GE BWR design is flawed by current standards, but not THAT bad.

Note that I would prefer to see these old BWR designs replaced with a more modern PWR design, or any Generation III reactor, really. I do not favor extending the operating permits beyond the original timeframe to squeeze out additional profits, which TEPCO has repeatedly done.
 
Thanks, Nords, I appreciate all the clarification. However, there is one point I was hoping you could expand on just a little.

[T]he uranium's fission neutrons usually fly out of a nucleus with too much energy to be absorbed by nearby uranium nuclei. The neutrons zip out of the fuel mass and don't sustain the chain reaction. The trick is to slow the fission neutrons down enough to allow nearby uranium nuclei to absorb them. This is done by letting the neutrons ricochet around enough to lose some energy.

Again, you're the expert, but from my limited understanding of fission physics, the Uranium nucleii are not "absorbing" the stray neutrons, but rather are being "shattered" by them. That is, the stray neutrons smash into the Uranium nucleii, "fissioning" the uranium atom into two, lighter isotopes, and releasing a spray of still more loose neutrons (and, of course, a tremendous amount of energy). These newly-freed neutrons smash into still other uranium nucleii, continuing the reaction, until there are no more uranium atoms left to fission, or the density of stray neutrons drops to the point where they're "missing" the uranium nucleii, and instead are just flying off into space.

When a sufficiently high density of stray neutrons is achieved and maintained, this results in a fission chain reaction.

I wasn't aware any neutrons were being absorbed in the process, or that there was a speed limitation on the stray neutrons. Can you clarify this misunderstanding?
 
...from my limited understanding of fission physics, the Uranium nucleii are not "absorbing" the stray neutrons, but rather are being "shattered" by them.

Nope, the neutrons are actually absorbed. The new heavier nucleus then often decays by fissioning into two roughly equal mass nuclei, along with some free neutrons and gamma rays.

Uranium 235, for example, absorbs a neutron to become Uranium 236 with the nucleus in an excited state. About 82% of the time it will decay by fission, and about 18% of the time it will just dump the excitation energy as a gamma ray and the nucleus will return to a ground state with a half-life of around 23 million years.
 
Again, you're the expert, but from my limited understanding of fission physics, the Uranium nucleii are not "absorbing" the stray neutrons, but rather are being "shattered" by them. That is, the stray neutrons smash into the Uranium nucleii, "fissioning" the uranium atom into two, lighter isotopes, and releasing a spray of still more loose neutrons (and, of course, a tremendous amount of energy). These newly-freed neutrons smash into still other uranium nucleii, continuing the reaction, until there are no more uranium atoms left to fission, or the density of stray neutrons drops to the point where they're "missing" the uranium nucleii, and instead are just flying off into space.

When a sufficiently high density of stray neutrons is achieved and maintained, this results in a fission chain reaction.

I wasn't aware any neutrons were being absorbed in the process, or that there was a speed limitation on the stray neutrons. Can you clarify this misunderstanding?
What M_Paquette said!

Neutrons are heavy & dense, but against other nuclei they behave more like ping-pong balls than like bullets. The neutron is "captured" by the U-235 nucleus, so the neutron has to have a narrow range of speeds (energy) and collision angles in order to get absorbed. The subsequent fission happens (if it's going to happen) so quickly as to be nearly simultaneous.

Some of the fission neutrons have too much energy, hence the need for the water acting as "moderator" (as in moderating the neutron's speed) to slow it down enough for another U-235 nucleus to be able to absorb it... and to also redirect it to those U-235 nuclei.

The high-energy neutrons that escape the core still have enough mass/velocity to damage the crystal lattice of the metal structures around them. And a few of them even escape the reactor compartment's shielding to interact with the watchstanders or their dosimeters.

Nukes wear dosimeters which are sensitive to gamma radiation. IIRC though nobody gave a darn about documenting neutron exposure, either from the reactor or from the nuclear warheads in the ICBMs or TOMAHAWK cruise missiles. I think the logic was that it was too low to matter (as far as we know!), but M_Paquette might have a better response to that.

Nuclear power school was six months long. Subjects included core physics, overall reactor plant physics, thermodynamics, materials, chemistry, radiation, "aspects of reactor plant operations", and electrical engineering. Students who showed up before the official start date had to either burn leave (highly inadvisable) or study two weeks of calculus & physics. Classes ran daily for eight hours (with a 30-minute lunch). Mandatory study was four hours per weekday (highly inadvisable) although most students put in 40 hours per week (yes, five-six hours/day in addition to class time). Weekdays I was churning & burning in the classroom from 0600-2200, packing in two meals and a change of clothes. Weekends were for studying, catching up on chores, and running errands. (I have no idea how the married couples dealt with this workload.) Exams were several hours long and were both essays & problem solving. Never a short-answer or multiple-choice question... the idea was to extract every bit of information in your head (the hard way) so that they could decide whether to pass or fail you. Some of the essay questions took an hour to answer.

That was just the classroom portion of the training. The shore-based reactor-plant training was another six months of qualifying on plant-specific systems and how to operate them. Most of the qualification process here was by oral interviews, so it was difficult to bluff your way through any of it. Then you spent about six-eight months on your submarine repeating the qualification process (usually on different gear)... all for the privilege of standing watch, running drills, and being inspected. By the time you got to the submarine, everyone was reasonably confident that you knew how to study, pass exams, manage your time, complete a qual card, and stand a watch.

Then the real training started!
 
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Nukes wear dosimeters which are sensitive to gamma radiation. IIRC though nobody gave a darn about documenting neutron exposure, either from the reactor or from the nuclear warheads in the ICBMs or TOMAHAWK cruise missiles. I think the logic was that it was too low to matter (as far as we know!), but M_Paquette might have a better response to that.

The Engineering Lab Technicians did occasional neutron surveys with a special neutron counter. Neutrons are just really easy to stop, though. Any material with lots of hydrogen atoms, which mass about the same as a neutron, will slow down fast neutrons to a crawl, and adding a bit of boron, such as boric acid or borated polyethylene will absorb the slowed neutrons.

There is shielding installed in a power plant, sufficient to stop neutron leakage out to areas where delicate meat-based types might lurk, and if that shielding isn't tampered with there is no reason to expect a surprise flux of neutrons. (This reminds me of a funny story involving an incident in an S5G class power plant, which alas is probably too sensitive to be discussed here...)

Gamma rays leak out pretty readily, being difficult to stop, so everyone in the crew has to have a Tiny Little Dosimeter to check their exposure. Oddly enough, my exposure when underway on nuclear power was about half of what I got in similar periods when in port with the plant shut down. A few hundred feet of seawater makes wonderful shielding from that fusion reactor in the sky and all the radioactive junk in granite...
 
Out of curiosity, where do all these free neutrons end up? Do they eventually get absorbed by some random atom or do they bounce around forever?
 
I'm not sure why this is getting so much "OMG near miss" discussion. If a meltdown is caused by the aftermath of a tsunami, it seems likely that there's going to be seawater nearby. Nuclear power plants tend to be built close to very large supplies of water. He also didn't show that the amount of rediation going into the sea was particularly harmful; "20 times what a nuclear power worker can be exposed to" is /a/ not all that much anyway and /b/ doesn't contain the dimension of time (ie, how long the exposure continued for at that level).

What we now know is that at least one core melted and we still only have 3 or so fatalities.
 
What we now know is that at least one core melted and we still only have 3 or so fatalities.

They've admitted in the mean time that the cores of reactors 1, 2 and 3 melted down soon after the tsunami. And it looks like they may not only have melted down, also melted "through", according to this news from Bloomberg: "The Japanese government will submit a report to the International Atomic Energy Agency that raises the possibility the fuel dropped through the bottom of the pressure vessels, a situation described as a “melt through” and considered more serious than a “meltdown”.

The fatalities will come later, much later. And it will probably often be hard to link them to the disaster.

From an interview with Arnie Gundersen: "Well, I am in touch with some scientists now who have been monitoring the air on the West Coast and in Seattle for instance, in April, the average person in Seattle breathed in 10 hot particles a day. (...) The average human being breathes about 10 meters a day of air, cubic meters of air. And the air out in the Seattle area are detecting, when they pull 10 cubic meters through them, this is in April now, so we are in the end of May so it is a better situation now. That air filter will have 10 hot particles on it. And that was before the Unit Four issue."

The Italian oncologists are more worried than people in this forum: "From the ASCO congress in Chicago, the world's most important oncology summit, AIOM (Italian association of medical oncology) urges the people to vote 'yes' at the referendum to be held on 12 and 13 June. "Nuclear radiation is the most carcinogenic thing that exists - said AIOM president Carmelo Iacono - and it cannot be kept under control, as the Fukushima tragedy proved. Let's drop the nuclear plants project and let's start staking on alternative energy, which pollutes much less and which, unlike nuclear energy, does not pose a threat for health"."

From Time.com: "One recurring theme that has emerged after Fukushima is the tendency of nuclear experts to underestimate (publicly at least) the severity of the disaster. Today we received further proof of this when the Japanese government more than doubled the estimate for the amount of radiation released from the plant in the immediate aftermath of the crisis in March." (and it's not yet over, it's not under control, there are leaks and unit four may become a very big problem)
 
From an interview with Arnie Gundersen: "Well, I am in touch with some scientists now who have been monitoring the air on the West Coast and in Seattle for instance, in April, the average person in Seattle breathed in 10 hot particles a day. (...) The average human being breathes about 10 meters a day of air, cubic meters of air. And the air out in the Seattle area are detecting, when they pull 10 cubic meters through them, this is in April now, so we are in the end of May so it is a better situation now. That air filter will have 10 hot particles on it. And that was before the Unit Four issue."
That article doesn't distinguish between alpha/beta particles, and alpha/beta particle emitters. I stopped reading right there. Either a "hot particle" is an alpha particle, in which case, once it hits you, it stops moving, finds a couple of electrons, and becomes an atom of helium; or it's a "particle" in the sense of "small piece of matter, like dust", in which case it could be nasty, but he has to tell us how big it is. Until he does that, he's just using big scary words with no quantification. (I note that there are very few measured quantities in any of these scare stories, just "Radiation Is Bad" and occasionally "Up to X", with no idea on the overall range or the distribution of probabilities.)
 
Out of curiosity, where do all these free neutrons end up? Do they eventually get absorbed by some random atom or do they bounce around forever?

Ah yes, stalking the wily free neutron.

They'll usually be absorbed by something, such as hafnium in a control rod, or boron in the neutron shield. If one wanders off and isn't absorbed, after several hundred seconds a free neutron decays by emitting an electron and turning into a proton. That is, the neutron decays to become hydrogen.
 
And hence the hydrogen build up and explosion that occurred?
I suspect most of the H2 was generated from the radioactive decay of the fission products and the heating/melting of the core's materials.

It's been a loooong time since I had to remember any of this, but IIRC the naval reactors used to keep a small amount of hydrogen in solution in the primary coolant-- in order to minimize corrosion? Was that to buffer the pH to minimize stress corrosion cracking or to equilibrate NH3 generation? I don't know anything about the GE reactor design but they might also have been doing something similar.

What's really annoying me is that I can remember the spec is a number between 10-60 but I can't remember the units (cc/kg?) nor the reasoning behind doing it in the first place.

The main reason I remember H2 in primary coolant because you used to have to keep H2 in spec 24/7, whether the reactor was operating or shut down, and after a long shutdown period it could sometimes drift low enough that you'd have to contemplate adding H2 to the primary coolant. Bringing pressurized tanks of explosive gases into a submarine engine room to do an evolution that most people only experienced a few times a decade was always an added thrill to an otherwise routine workday...

(This reminds me of a funny story involving an incident in an S5G class power plant, which alas is probably too sensitive to be discussed here...)
I think the saying I used to hear was:
"Nobody served on an S5G plant. They just did hard time on that boat and hoped to be paroled for good behavior before something bad happened..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S5G_reactor
 
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... or it's a "particle" in the sense of "small piece of matter, like dust", in which case it could be nasty, ...
I found on Gundersens' web site an interview with a grad student, Marco Kaltofen, who is working at measuring radioactive dusty fallout from Japan. Not much known yet, I gather, beyond detecting the stuff and identifying it as coming from Japan:
http://www.fairewinds.com/content/where-all-fukushima-radiation-going-and-why-does-it-matter

Also, Wikipedia has a discussion of this here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiat..._nuclear_accidents#Distribution_outside_Japan
 
And hence the hydrogen build up and explosion that occurred?

No, not that. That would take a lot of neutrons. Bukkits of 'em.

The hydrogen gas probably came from metal/water reactions at very high temperatures. For example, the zirconium alloy used to jacket fuel rods will react with water at 1200 degrees centigrade (i.e., really, really hot) to release hydrogen gas.

BTW, the version of the old BWR plant in this accident that's running in the US has vents in the top of the building put there specifically to vent hydrogen gas in the event of an accident. The gas would normally be vented from the reactor plant through a filtration and scrubbing system (blown up in the Fukushima accident), and then vented outside rather than allowed to accumulate inside. TEPCO didn't do the vent retrofit.
 
BTW, the version of the old BWR plant in this accident that's running in the US has vents in the top of the building put there specifically to vent hydrogen gas in the event of an accident. The gas would normally be vented from the reactor plant through a filtration and scrubbing system (blown up in the Fukushima accident), and then vented outside rather than allowed to accumulate inside. TEPCO didn't do the vent retrofit.
Perhaps a good-news/bad-news situation, as those vents might first have served as tsunami-water inlets...
 
I have no doubt that the resident nukes can debunk much of the content of this article:
Fukushima: It's much worse than you think - Al Jazeera English
The words "natural electricity" made me grin, but those words that sound silly in English may just be the translation (probably from Japanese to English, possibly via Arabic).
Do you have a real [-]pony[/-] question in that link, or are you just trolling for another exciting dissertation on reactor physics?

In the US, physician Janette Sherman MD and epidemiologist Joseph Mangano published an essay shedding light on a 35 per cent spike in infant mortality in northwest cities that occurred after the Fukushima meltdown, and may well be the result of fallout from the stricken nuclear plant.
The eight cities included in the report are San Jose, Berkeley, San Francisco, Sacramento, Santa Cruz, Portland, Seattle, and Boise, and the time frame of the report included the ten weeks immediately following the disaster.
You might want to check these claims on your own to see what sort of peer-reviewed journal they're appearing in. Apparently they managed to sneak past whatever passes for editorial review.

I'm calling hogwash on the credibility of a guy with four decades of nuclear engineering experience referring to it as a "Geiger counter". The media seems to be frantically exhuming anyone in the industry who's feeling the need for their 15 minutes of fame.
 
You might want to check these claims on your own to see what sort of peer-reviewed journal they're appearing in. Apparently they managed to sneak past whatever passes for editorial review.
From what I can see, it appears mainly on the web site of Janette D. Sherman MD, "Physician - Author - Activist". Top of the blog is an article claiming that WHO and IAEA are in cahoots to cover up the "truth" about Chernobyl. This was commissioned by that well-known right-wing group, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, but not published - presumably (according to Sherman) "because it was considered too alarming", and not at all, of course, because of any questions about its rigour.

She needs to start cranking up the mortality figures, though, because she has stated that /a/ the death toll from Chernobyl is in fact 980,000 and /b/ that Fukushima will be worse.

Anti-nuclear campaigner is anti-nuclear; no surprises there. When the CDC starts writing about a spike in infant death rates, I'll be listening.
 
A German organic farm appears to have killed 35 people and permantly destroyed the health of many more. The radiation from the damaged Japanese nuclear plants have killed no one (though it will admittedly take a lot of thorough epidemiological studies over decades to know for sure).

Where's the outrage over organic farming? It's certainly time to re-examine our fatal fascination with this technology. We now have good alternatives that are safer.
 
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