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We have decided to move from Illinois to Arizona. The move has a lot of parts, since we are selling 2 places, buying 1, and moving MIL with us.

1. Sell our Arizona snowbird condo
1a. Move Az stuff to storage

2. Buy Az house
2a. Move stuff from Az storage to Az house

3. Sell Il house

4. Move Il stuff to Az house
5. Move MIL to Az house.

Of course, the timing of the sales and purchase may dictate a different schedule.

How many fellow members moved after ER & were you lucky enough to schedule things to avoid temporarily storing your stuff? And avoid moving to temporary housing waiting to get the new place? And how did you pull off a smooth move?
 
Good luck with your move, getting it all coordinated unless you have a place to stay in the interim is a challenge. We have always secured a rental or something so we did not have to rush anything. If one is in a rush, one will tend to take offers on one's home or property that normally would have been turned down.

Personally I would do it the other way round. Use the AZ condo as the interim. Then sell it at your leisure when the IL home is gone and the new home is purchased. Again allowing you time to move etc. Just my 02c
 
Last time I moved domestically (1998), the professional moving firm (Allied) held my goods for 30 days as part of the package. That allowed me time to find a house & close without incurring additional cost. Everything was moved out of house 1 onto the truck, off the truck into the warehouse, onto a different truck and into house 2. Yes, there was some damage and it was all covered by the moving company. I don't think the damage was due to the additional moves, rather poor packing.

What about MIL house and MIL stuff? Is she with you now?

Just to throw a wrench into this.... how much of your IL stuff will go with the AZ house? Are there furnished homes in AZ (I am familiar with FL) that if purchased would minimize the amount of stuff moved from IL to AZ?
 
Ah the dream of leaving Illinois!! Is is the taxes or the terrible drivers on the highways? Pritzker perharps?? Good luck with the move!!
 
We have decided to move from Illinois to Arizona. The move has a lot of parts, since we are selling 2 places, buying 1, and moving MIL with us.

1. Sell our Arizona snowbird condo
1a. Move Az stuff to storage

2. Buy Az house
2a. Move stuff from Az storage to Az house

3. Sell Il house

4. Move Il stuff to Az house
5. Move MIL to Az house.

Of course, the timing of the sales and purchase may dictate a different schedule.

How many fellow members moved after ER & were you lucky enough to schedule things to avoid temporarily storing your stuff? And avoid moving to temporary housing waiting to get the new place? And how did you pull off a smooth move?

Wow! Congratulations on the move, I know it's taken a while to make the decision.

I moved from S. FL to the Panhandle (600 miles), but only had the S. FL house to sell, and just wanted to rent for awhile before buying in the 850. My sequence:
1. Find the rental
2. Clean out S. FL house, move the balance into rental. It was a substantial cleaning out and reduction of possessions.
3. Paint, clean up and do some deferred maintenance on the SoFla house before listing it for sale.
4. Closed on the house in the 850 about 10 months after moving, so had plenty of time to move from the townhouse.

There was some cost and inconvience with this approach, but it also elimanted the hassle of trying to sell a house I was living in and allowed me to move on my schedule.

If you can swing it, I would buy the AZ house first, vacate and sell the condo, then deal with the IL house. Don't think there is an easy or cheap way to pull this off.....
 
I'm jealous that you are getting to leave Illinois. Congrats on the move and I agree that I would keep the Arizona vacation home as base to purchase a new home there. Maybe even move the MIL there first...
 
When we moved back rom the Cruise Boat in the Caribbean after living aboard for ~3 years, we rented in the 904, moved all our stuff from storage at sisters place in Canada. The rental was furnished so all good.

THEN we started our house hunt, that took us 3 years also as prices were silly at the time. Then we closed on the hone 3 months before our rental lease terminated. Gave us lots of time and really was not that much of an additional expense for the peace of mind. Also gave us time to do some general move in changes to the new home.
 
How many fellow members moved after ER & were you lucky enough to schedule things to avoid temporarily storing your stuff? And avoid moving to temporary housing waiting to get the new place? And how did you pull off a smooth move?


I moved after ER and wasn’t able (didn’t try, actually) to bypass using a storage facility. I also needed temporary housing and would have loved to have an existing condo like you have.

I wouldn’t characterize my move as smooth but in retrospect I wish I’d downsized MUCH more in my former state (coincidentally, IL). The more stuff you can jettison, the less that has to be lugged around while you get settled.

[ADDED] I’m still tossing stuff out at a snail’s pace, asking myself, “what were you thinking?”.
 
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I'm exhausted just looking at that list. If you don't mind sharing, what led you to this decision?

On a second note, stuff is cheap and moving stuff across country is not, OTOH getting people to buy or even take your used stuff requires a lot of effort too.
 
Feel like #3 and #1 should be reversed. Use your condo as homebase until the other pieces are done.

Good luck with your move, getting it all coordinated unless you have a place to stay in the interim is a challenge. We have always secured a rental or something so we did not have to rush anything. If one is in a rush, one will tend to take offers on one's home or property that normally would have been turned down.

Personally I would do it the other way round. Use the AZ condo as the interim. Then sell it at your leisure when the IL home is gone and the new home is purchased. Again allowing you time to move etc. Just my 02c

Selling the house first and moving to the condo is a possibility. I like the idea, but fitting any more in the condo would be tough. And I would need to rent storage space and garage space to pull this option off. We are going to use the condo soon as a base for finding the house.
 
Last time I moved domestically (1998), the professional moving firm (Allied) held my goods for 30 days as part of the package. That allowed me time to find a house & close without incurring additional cost. Everything was moved out of house 1 onto the truck, off the truck into the warehouse, onto a different truck and into house 2. Yes, there was some damage and it was all covered by the moving company. I don't think the damage was due to the additional moves, rather poor packing.

What about MIL house and MIL stuff? Is she with you now?

Just to throw a wrench into this.... how much of your IL stuff will go with the AZ house? Are there furnished homes in AZ (I am familiar with FL) that if purchased would minimize the amount of stuff moved from IL to AZ?

Wow - didn't know that moving co's would hold stuff.
MIL lives in an apt. and has minimal stuff. She would probably only want to keep a couple pieces of furniture.

DW wants new furniture in the Az house. So we shouldn't have to move many big items. And I doubt that we will find a house furnished to DW's liking - but it is possible.
 
I retired and moved 1500 miles cross country. I have a big detached garage, several old cars and lot of tools and car parts, so it was a bunch more stuff to deal with. I was able to negotiate an extra month to stay in old place, paying the buyer a 1 month cost. My new house here was still under construction, so I still had to put stuff into storage for about 6 months. Yes it meant having to handle stuff twice. I used movers to do all the house stuff from old house to storage, then local movers from storage to new house. I moved all the garage stuff myself, that was lot of work with heavy items and boxes. Being from the storage unit, I could do it on my timeframe and was not required to do it all in one or two days.



Moving companies will hold your stuff, but the cost is high. Because they unload into a warehouse, then reload once ready to bring to your new house. You are paying for the convenience. I would go for self storage route and even if you do like I did and hire local movers, it will be less cost.


Good luck with the sales and working out the logistics of it all. I think good moving out of IL, does not seem to be much good news coming out of there vs the amount of bad news.
 
I would reverse 1 and 2 so I didn't need to move stuff (or pay to move stuff) twice.... so buy AZ house and then sell AZ condo/move stuff from AZ condo to AZ house.

If house closing is first you can always move some/many/all things from AZ condo to AZ house before AZ condo closes.
 
Ah the dream of leaving Illinois!! Is is the taxes or the terrible drivers on the highways? Pritzker perharps?? Good luck with the move!!

Thanks - I paid $0 income tax in Illinois, but the real estate tax more than accounts for the $0 state income tax. Pritzker hasn't done anything to cause us to move - yet. And the drivers are worse in Az.
 
Somehow, I have this picture in my mind of the MIL on the roof of the family truckster, in her rocking chair.
 
I would reverse 1 and 2 so I didn't need to move stuff (or pay to move stuff) twice.... so buy AZ house and then sell AZ condo/move stuff from AZ condo to AZ house.

If house closing is first you can always move some/many/all things from AZ condo to AZ house before AZ condo closes.

This only works if the OP doesn't intend to use the proceeds from the condo to pay for the house. Basically they are going to own 3 homes at the same time.
 
Wow! Congratulations on the move, I know it's taken a while to make the decision.

I moved from S. FL to the Panhandle (600 miles), but only had the S. FL house to sell, and just wanted to rent for awhile before buying in the 850. My sequence:
1. Find the rental
2. Clean out S. FL house, move the balance into rental. It was a substantial cleaning out and reduction of possessions.
3. Paint, clean up and do some deferred maintenance on the SoFla house before listing it for sale.
4. Closed on the house in the 850 about 10 months after moving, so had plenty of time to move from the townhouse.

There was some cost and inconvience with this approach, but it also elimanted the hassle of trying to sell a house I was living in and allowed me to move on my schedule.

If you can swing it, I would buy the AZ house first, vacate and sell the condo, then deal with the IL house. Don't think there is an easy or cheap way to pull this off.....

Thanks for the details of your move. Buying the Az house first would work nicely. I just need to find one that DW approves of. I think the condo will sell fast, so I could get from 3 dwellings to 2 in a hurry, but I think the Illinois house could take a while.
 
I'm jealous that you are getting to leave Illinois. Congrats on the move and I agree that I would keep the Arizona vacation home as base to purchase a new home there. Maybe even move the MIL there first...

I've been wanting to leave Illinois for a while. DW says that she will not leave her 90 yo mother here alone. Convinced her mom last week that she needs to move with us. Moving MIL there first would not work - she is afraid to drive anywhere, and our walkability there isn't the best.
 
I moved after ER and wasn’t able (didn’t try, actually) to bypass using a storage facility. I also needed temporary housing and would have loved to have an existing condo like you have.

I wouldn’t characterize my move as smooth but in retrospect I wish I’d downsized MUCH more in my former state (coincidentally, IL). The more stuff you can jettison, the less that has to be lugged around while you get settled.

[ADDED] I’m still tossing stuff out at a snail’s pace, asking myself, “what were you thinking?”.

Thanks for the confirmation re: downsizing a lot. I'm in a huge fast moving downsizing now. Craigslist, garage sales, Autotrader, Goodwill, and double the garbage pickup.
 
And now we know the answer to the old early retirement question, "But what will you DO all day?"

Exactly. I'm far busier now than at any time during my working years. I don't know working people can pull off a long distance move.
 
I'm exhausted just looking at that list. If you don't mind sharing, what led you to this decision?

On a second note, stuff is cheap and moving stuff across country is not, OTOH getting people to buy or even take your used stuff requires a lot of effort too.

I have wanted to move for some time, but DW does not want to leave her 90 yo mother. Her mom has agreed to move with us, so I'm trying to pull this off before she changes her mind.

I know what you mean about the cost of stuff vs the cost of moving stuff. We will be down to bare bones when the movers show up.
 
I retired and moved 1500 miles cross country. I have a big detached garage, several old cars and lot of tools and car parts, so it was a bunch more stuff to deal with. I was able to negotiate an extra month to stay in old place, paying the buyer a 1 month cost. My new house here was still under construction, so I still had to put stuff into storage for about 6 months. Yes it meant having to handle stuff twice. I used movers to do all the house stuff from old house to storage, then local movers from storage to new house. I moved all the garage stuff myself, that was lot of work with heavy items and boxes. Being from the storage unit, I could do it on my timeframe and was not required to do it all in one or two days.



Moving companies will hold your stuff, but the cost is high. Because they unload into a warehouse, then reload once ready to bring to your new house. You are paying for the convenience. I would go for self storage route and even if you do like I did and hire local movers, it will be less cost.


Good luck with the sales and working out the logistics of it all. I think good moving out of IL, does not seem to be much good news coming out of there vs the amount of bad news.

Thanks for for sharing your process. I have a 22 x 24 woodworking workshop, the contents of which will be downsized. You bring to mind that I could possibly keep stuff in my detached garage for a short time period after closing on the house if the buyer is ok with it.
 
My lessons learned from 20+ moves:

Before Moving Day:

1. Go through all of your stuff well in advance of the move, and get rid of the things you don’t want in the new place. Why move it if you will just get rid of it at the other end?

2. Decide what you will move yourself. What vehicles and space are available? Estimate the space required to fit the items in the vehicles. Plan to leave about 25% of the available space empty to allow for extra things you will remember at the last minute.

3. Suggested things NOT to send with the movers:
• Important papers, checkbooks, jewelry
• Medical records, medicines
• Other valuables
• Anything you think is very important, and can squeeze into your vehicles
• Cleaning supplies, vacuum, broom, etc
• Tools. Some can be sent with movers, but you will likely need at least a few basic tools with you as you move and unpack.
• Paint supplies if you will paint before the movers deliver your stuff
• A small number of pots, plates, flatware, glasses, etc., so you will be able to cook and eat simple meals until you unpack the kitchen stuff. Or, use paper/plastic items. You won’t want to eat every meal in a restaurant.
• One telephone. One radio.

On Moving Day:

1. Put everything the movers won’t be packing into a separate closet. Hang a sign on the closet to remind the movers (and you!) not to pack the contents of the closet.

2. Put items together in one location if you want them packed together.

3. The movers will give you an inventory list, but it is nearly useless when you need to find something, or when you want to know what was in the box that got lost. When you are unpacking, you will at times be looking for specific items, and you need to be able to find them. This will allow you to unpack in an organized manner, and greatly reduce the stress. Plus save the time you would waste searching for things.

Create your own inventory list as follows:

• Find out in advance how many packers will be boxing your stuff.
• Have one adult follow each packer. Get a friend to help if necessary.
• As the packers load each box, keep a detailed inventory of the contents. This is critical to finding things at the other end!!!! The more detail, the better. Don’t just write things like “desk drawer items”. You won’t know in advance everything you will want to find, so plan ahead!
• As each box is sealed, put a serial number on the box with a permanent marker. Write the number in 3 places: top, and 2 opposite sides. Then you won’t ever have to turn the box more than 90 degrees to find the number.
• Also put the same serial number on the inventory list next to the contents of the box. Now, you know exactly what is in each box.
• For key items, list them right on the outside of the box so you can find them easier.
• DO NOT list valuable items like jewelry on the outside of the box. That’s an invitation to be stolen. Not usually a problem unless the boxes will go into storage before they are delivered at the new place.
• If you know which room the box will go to at the new place, write that on the box as well.
• When the movers put their inventory stickers on the boxes, add that number to your inventory list. You will be checking each box off on the movers’ list as they come off the truck, and you will usually miss a few. This cross reference will help you find them in the ocean of cardboard.
• Each person keeping an inventory should use serial numbers starting with a different digit. For example: Wife uses numbers in the 100’s, husband in the 200’s, etc. This will help ID which room it came from as well as prevent duplicates.


4. Suggested items to be sure get put on the inventory are:
• Pots, plates, glasses, flatware, etc
• Bedding, towels
• Lamps and bulbs
• Any cleaning supplies that get packed
• Toilet paper, paper towels, rags
• Extension cords, telephones and phone cords
• Anything you think you will need in the first few days after the movers deliver your stuff.
• Clothes by type (underwear, socks, pants, etc. Identify the owner Hers/his, which kid)
• Toiletry items
• Hardware such as picture hangers, nails, screws
• Any tools that you send with the movers
• Records, CDs, TV’s and stereo equipment. You will want tunes while you unpack!
• Computer stuff.


5. Don’t let the packers put containers and lids made of glass, ceramic, or other fragile material together without separating them with packing material. The direct contact will allow rubbing, which will probably cause breakage.

6. The movers will usually only place a piece of furniture once. Plan ahead where you want each item to go.

A little planning ahead will make the move go much smoother, at the old place and the new place. It will always be a pain, but being organized helps a lot. Good luck!
 
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