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Also, they exclude pre-existing conditions which should get lower cost patients. Some of the following from Liberty Health Share's website could lead to a lower cost patient: Share one another's burdens Believe that our body is a temple Do not use tobacco products Do not drink alcohol in...

I agree with you, but.. that's insurance. The HS people make a big point of saying "this is not insurance." There's no one to stop someone suing them if there was no payment, but it's not like suing Anthem, where you know there is money to pay you once you, hopefully, win. I think they'd say...

My roommate sells health insurance.. Here's what I recall him telling me... 1. He says that he is aware of claims being paid and hasn't heard of claims not being paid. He has had experience of insurance companies not paying claims and tells me he thinks your chances are better with Christian...

Very interesting. Questions: QuantumOnline says they were issues 2014 not 20 years ago. Is there a better reference? They issued 3% and 8.75%. How do you know you're getting the 8.75% ones? You bought at 90 and now trading at 110, you could do a quick flip and make $2K?

Thanks, I appreciate your thoughts. The 2-3% sounds wise. The fluctuation in value is concerning. I've been a WFB customer since I was 16 or so and I have always thought they were a well run operation but I'm sure people thought that about Lehman too. On WFC-L, specifically, it's nuts that you...

Thanks, Gents!

Question: WFC-L is non-cumulative. Should one care? Is the idea that for them not to pay that things would have to be very bad and if they suspended that would be a reputational issue? Just buy it and at the first sign of any issue with WFC, sell?

Yes, I saw. I'm seeing that one really has to be on the ball. Also, from what I see, you got out at the day high. Congrats!

Mulligan - thanks again for explaining! As for the woman, I think it'd be easier to find a solid 10% return, but that's probably a topic for another thread ;-)

First, thanks to all in this thread, especially Mulligan. It's very cool to have this discussion and explain the thinking... I've been learning and have a question: I know that getting a good price is important when buying (duh!) but looking at a security like CNTHO which is priced at $51.40...