Chest Freezer

Ordered one from Costco in June and it arrived with dents and a crushed lid. Returned it and found a nice 5 cubic foot model at Home Depot and they let me take it out of the box to inspect it before buying and then took $30 off for a tiny mark on the lid. Have 1/4 cow coming in August and 10 big whole chickens tomorrow.
 
After having a chest freezer for too long, we are looking for an upright freezer that has more shelves, and easier access to the buried items. Nothing sucks more than having to empty half of the contents to find something.
 
...I have two manual defrost freezers, one upright and one chest. All other things being equal (build quality), a chest freezer will be more efficient. However, with the upright it is much easier to find things and having a door (with shelves) is nice.
The reason chest freezers are more energy efficient is because cold freezer air is heavier (denser) than room temperature air. When the door of an upright freezer is opened, most of the cold air spills out, being replaced with warm room air that must be cooled. But when a chest freezer is opened, most of the cold air remains in the freezer, kind of like a bowl holding water, and does not need to be chilled again. Also, the frost buildup will be lower on a chest freezer because less room air enters the freezer. Warm air holds more moisture than cold air and is a major source of freezer frost (although some of the freezer frost does come from moisture outgassing from poorly wrapped food).

The 8 cubic foot upright we have has an energy label that states 413 kilowatts of electricity are used a year and the new 16 cubic foot freezer energy label states 308 kilowatts of power are used each year. Some of this added efficiency definitely is from thicker cabinet insulation in the new freezer, and some increase in effeciency is probably due to the fact it's a chest freezer.
 
Actually, I don't thinks it is anywhere near that bad. As I understand it, at least on modern frost free models, the coils are tucked away behind a panel, and a fan circulates the inside air over them. Only the coils get frost on them (they are the coldest part), and only the coils are heated (with the fan off, so the air around the food is not really heated much at all). The water drips off and through a tube to the drain pan (which evaporates with the hot air from the compressor blown over it....

-ERD50

This is correct. No-frost freezers also have an evaporator fan that blows air across the cooling coils inside the freezer when the compressor is running and this will cool the freezer faster than a manual defrost model, so both these taken together probably keep frost free models from warming up the freezer contents during the defrost cycle.

Now a frost free freezer will use more electricity than a manual defrost freezer having the same capacity, insulation, compressor, etc. simply because of the heating element (typically a defrost cycle is once a day and lasts 30 minutes).
 
A chest freezer is much better than the upright if you have a power outage.


My BIL had a chest freezer and lost electricity for a couple of days... when the electricity came back on he went out and found that only the very top items showed any sign of melting but were still 'frozen'... the bottom items were rock solid...


My upright will lose its cold in half a day but the items are still frozen enough to be OK...


I like the upright for the ease of storing and shelves...
 
I guess we will see what the freezer shortage looks like in our area. Just saw that we have a puddle under our chest freezer. Everything seems to still be frozen, but that can't be a good sign. Called around a few places....some say they don't have any, some say they have no idea when they might get any. One said to check with what their on-line ad says, that they can't/aren't allowed to tell you that over the phone. And she said just because the on-line says they have one, doesn't mean they will have it when you come in AND they won't hold it for you. Looked on-line at WalMart, Lowes, Home Depot, and a couple local small stores. No luck. On-line Menard's appears to have a few in our area. We will see. Hope to pick one up there in the next few days just in-case ours really does quit or that the supply and demand situation gets worse. Crossing our fingers.
 
We got this one:



from WebstaurantStore.com and are really happy with it. They seem to have a fair number of freezers and whatnot in stock still. The warranty does warn that it potentially doesn't cover non-commercial use, but eh, was worth it to us. We've stored at least 100lbs of meat, plus a multi-week supply of smoothies. It is building up frost and at some point we will eat it down, throw everything in a cooler and defrost and drain the freezer, seems like we can hose it down on the inside to speed up the process once it is off. The baskets are great for organization and while I do sometimes need to excavate to move things around on the bottom, it isn't too bad.

It took a lot of strain off the freezer compartment in our kitchen fridge, which is not the most spacious, and has been fantastic for our new penchant for buying beef primals/subprimals, 10lb. packages of chicken breast, etc.
 
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After having a chest freezer for too long, we are looking for an upright freezer that has more shelves, and easier access to the buried items. Nothing sucks more than having to empty half of the contents to find something.

that's precisely why we sold the chest and bought a small, manual defrost upright for the garage several years ago. we also have our still chugging along nearly 40-yr old fridge in the garage. we use both.
 
In rural Montana all of my neighbors have freezers as do we. Many of us have multiple freezers because we tend to be hunters, gatherers, and fisherman.

When a supply crisis like this happens, suddenly everyone in the big city thinks they are a hunter/gatherer, baker, etc. when they are really just hoarding whatever they can get their hands on. While I don’t blame them, having and making good use of a freezer are different skills.

Most of the city fold don’t have and won’t acquire the skills necessary to store and use foods over a long period of time. My own citified sister and brother-in-law could probably die of starvation with a full freezer, because they have eaten out three meals a day for life. They don’t know how to preserve food or cook. There is more to it than meets the eye. And if you don’t do it right it’s simply wasting good food. Unless of course you intend to just fill it with ice cream you found on sale. Even then you should rotate it. And invite me...
 
Freezers have been hard to find since about March/April. It's all about people being fearful of not being able to find meat and other frozen foods at the stores due to the virus. When these items are available, people are buying them in quantity and filling up their freezers.


Hmm.. I had twelve 25cuft used chest freezers to sell in Nov 2018 (business closure) Had a bit of a hard time selling them. I should have market timed!
 
I have a little 6 cu ft upright freezer, and when I defrost it I use a few large pots of hot water and wait about 15 minutes.
That loosens the ice so I can take it out in sheets with very little melt water.
I use a plastic spatula to help it

our upright is in the freezer so no hassle on defrost. puke away!
 
When the COVID food shortages started happening we went to Lowe's right away in March in N.H. We had just moved to our little retirement home and didn’t think we’d need a freezer any longer. We always had a Big stand up one in our former home in the garage for easy access.

Because the garage in our new home is very small we reluctantly settled for a small chest freezer. I hate chest freezers (and bottom freezers in the fridges) because you have to dig into them and remove stuff just to find what you need. A real pain. Not to mention they need defrosting.

But the price was right at $149. And glad to have it because we had gotten a counter depth grudge fir our kitchen and the freezer in it is ridiculously small.

The COVID situation is a reason there was a run in freezers and now the stores can’t get them. But I think you might be able to find limited ones online like at Amazon maybe.
 
Thanks. That reminds me that I gotta chest freezer under a tarp in the backyard that I gotta move into the newly built shop. That old girl (the freezer) is the size of a VW Beetle. I think she was built back when Eisenhauer was a boy. I gotta electrical doodad that will turn her into a refrigerator (lowest setting on a conventional freezer is, well, FREEZE).
DW has been bugging me to getter (the freezer/fridge) set up as canning season is coming soon and we'll need to chill down a load of cukes, sweet corn, beets, etc.

I think I'll put her on casters, that way I can wheel her (reference ambiguous) around in the shop where's convenient. :dance:
 
For one of the few times in my life we timed it perfectly. DW has been nagging me for years that we should get a small chest freezer (sometimes she would get attacked by one of my ice cream containers when she'd open the freezer).
I gave in and we got one in early March. As it turns out, we got one of the last ones, got a great price to boot. And I gotta confess DW was right; I wish I had gotten it sooner, but at least we did have one in time for this pandemic/hoarding.
 
My son ordered a chest freezer last week. He said they will deliver it promptly when it arrives....in October.
 
I had a chest freezer pre-pandemic, but I noticed that many of the more popular dehydrators on Amazon are sold out. I also had a hard time finding mason jars at pre-pandemic prices. Walmart finally had some for home delivery recently. I think a lot of people are home now and turning to cooking and preserving food, for an at home hobby, to save money or maybe both.
 
pressure canners are hard to find around here. one of my dil relations ask when she visited this area and I said check around they are all over, but found I was wrong when I checked myself. freezers are one of the things people buy to hoard food. I had mine before the panedemic and would not be without one. when you get down to two people in the household it is hard to use up what you store in a freezer before it gets bad, so I don't hoard I pick up what we can use in a reasonable amount of time. if you buy a lot on sale and it goes bad in the freezer or is not preserved properly it is just wasted money.
 
My A/C guy told me they are having trouble getting parts, because factories in China and the U.S. are very limited on how many people they can have on the floor. He said the huge factory in Texas that supplies a lot of their parts, only can have 70 employees at any given time. And I have heard something similar from irrigation repair and also the fellow who installed our carbon water filter - even simple repair parts, such as sprinkler heads, are starting to run short.


Anyone know why nobody has chest freezers available to sell. You can find other large appliances (washing machines, dish washers, refrigerators, etc.) but no chest freezers. I check everywhere like Home Depot, Lowes, Best Buy, even Costco and some local independent large appliance stores. They all say they probably won't get any until the new year. I even checked with a restaurant supply store but no luck. I have been looking since February.

Befuddled!


Cheers!
 
Crap, now I have my fingers crossed that my 33 yr-old upright freezer will keep laboring on. My own fault for not replacing it last year when I should have, sigh:
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Trying to buy a freezer? National appliance shortage has many on waiting lists
Daily Tribune: July 19, 2020

The effects of the COVID-19 shutdowns are now reverberating across the appliance manufacturing industry. Residents are reporting that refrigerators, freezers, washers and dryers are out of stock with a months-long wait for orders across the region. Some are finding orders made in spring being cancelled as retailers grapple with the lack of supply. Others are being told outright that it’s going to take much longer than usual to order and install appliances.

“It’s like coming to work with handcuffs on,” David Tarpley, a sales representative with Sargent Appliance in Clinton Township, said. “We had someone come in this weekend who wanted a white side-by-side fridge the same day. We laughed. If we ordered that today, it might be here by the end of August.”

Freezers especially have seen higher demand since the beginning of the pandemic as consumers look to keep stocked up on food at home to avoid frequent grocery store trips. The demand for refrigerators, washers and dryers is about the same as always.

Martin Hartunian, CEO of ABC Warehouse said the coronavirus’ affect on the supply chain is making it more difficult for retailers to keep orders filled.

“The wire harnesses, switches, electrical components and dials are things that are manufactured overseas or in Mexico, which has slowed the production process down,” Hartunian said. “GE, Whirlpool, LG and Samsung do have some assembly of appliances in the U.S., but with COVID-19, they’ve had to rework their production lines which has led to a drop in yield.”

ABC Warehouse has 44 locations across Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. Hartunian said companies like his are in a sort of sweet-spot when it comes to ordering merchandise. “A thousand pieces for a company with 5,000 stores doesn’t mean anything, they’re having a bigger problem getting that kind of quantity. Every couple of weeks I’m seeing 100 freezers come in, so I can get 30 to 100 orders filled a little quicker,” he said.

Yet Hartunian is still expecting everyone will see more shortages in the coming months. Order volume is slowly rising as people return to work. He, along with Tarpley at Sargent’s, has seen countless new customers being recommended to smaller retailers for appliances from big box stores like Lowe’s and Home Depot.

Representatives from Lowe’s did not immediately reply for comment on the issue. A communications representative from Home Depot stated that the company’s merchandising and supply chain teams are “working hard to replenish in-demand items, like some appliances, as quickly as possible.”

For Jason Lee, owner of Noble Appliance, this is a moment he’s been preparing for since March. The business stocks about 8,000 appliances across its six locations. In one of the first weeks of the COVID-19 shutdown, he sold 170 freezers and noticed quickly that more stock would be needed — and fast.

Noble purchases its merchandise on the secondary market, or business-to-business as a B-Stock supplier. “We noticed in the first two-weeks of the shutdown that there were going to be major supply chain issues. We noticed those who would normally buy at full-retail were willing to pay 25% to 30% less to get an open box product,” Lee said.

Noble has also had many more walk-in customers than usual looking for shorter wait times on orders. He said for now, he isn’t struggling with the 7,800 appliances he still has in stock.

“We had a lot of orders in the very beginning that were larger than what we’d normally place, only to find out later that everything was backed up because we were not the only ones trying to stock up,” Lee said. “Now, we’re hoping to weather the storm and survive.”
 
.... I gotta electrical doodad that will turn her into a refrigerator (lowest setting on a conventional freezer is, well, FREEZE).
DW has been bugging me to getter (the freezer/fridge) set up as canning season is coming soon and we'll need to chill down a load of cukes, sweet corn, beets, etc.

I think I'll put her on casters, that way I can wheel her (reference ambiguous) around in the shop where's convenient. :dance:

Just be aware, that since it will be cooling, but never go to freezing, you can get a lot of humidity building up, to the point of standing water and mold.

It's a common approach in the homebrew world. Search on "kegerator" "chest freezer" and "moisture" or "damp" and you'll come up with a description of the problem ad suggestions to minimize it.

-ERD50
 
Lowes has garage ready chest freezers that can be ordered and delivered in October.
 
Lowes has garage ready chest freezers that can be ordered and delivered in October.

What is a “garage ready” freezer? I guess I missed something along the way. I used the infamous google, this is new to me.
 
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Garage ready means it was designed to operate in higher ambient temperature (outside vs inside with AC).

As a dumb city folk who ate out frequently due to convenience - it is surprising that I know how to cook or even bathe myself with out rural assistance! But somehow we manage even while being talked down to! [emoji849]

Some of the grocery delivery places bring cold items in the silvery plastic bubble wrap bags. We use those to organize our freezer. Sweets (like icecream), meat (1 cooked like sausage and 1 uncooked) veggies, bread, etc. milk too as it limits store trips to get several at once.

I pre-freeze everything in our garage fridge before put in the deep freeze. The bags make dumpster diving a lot easier as you have to pull out 6-7 things vs 100 to get to the bottom of the fridge. The bags also provide a little insulation so less thaw if it takes a while and I can’t find something.

As a family of 5 (I’d guess around 575lbs of adults/kids) we go through a decent amount of food. The freezer enables us to go 1-2 weeks between grocery (mostly for veggies/things you can’t freeze).
We have had a few mishaps - online guidance isn’t always reliable about what will freeze. I made a very chunky custard (heavy wipping cream will not ‘come back together with some shaking’)

All in all, we have ordered out food 3 times in the last 4 months.
 
I expect there to be another uptick in demand as I know there was some articles being spread around about the rain in China and how the flooding is killing a lot of farm animals and crops which could easily add to a supply chain shortage of food globally.
 

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