Hello everyone. I found this site a few months ago and decided to participate. As my name suggests, my biggest question is when to FIRE. My concern is that I will be FI long before I will be willing to take the plunge and RE. Some details:
We are in our early 40’s with 2 young children
No pension or health care insurance once I stop working (so other than savings we are entirely on our own)
We were both working and LBYM for many years until the children arrived
DW stopped working a few months ago. Between day care, commuting, taxes and the stress on the family it was not worth it. For the first time I analyzed our finances to see how we would do on 1 income. To my surprise, we spend much less than I imagined.
I want to be conservative given that we have no outside support other than Soc Sec 2 decades from now, and with children we are unwilling to radically change our circumstances (i.e. no move to a cheaper foreign country or to another part of this country). I have set a goal of FIRE when we have savings equal to 50 times our expenses. Said another way this is a 2% SWR. I know doing this will delay RE, perhaps substantially if the stock market underperforms. While I am conservative with RE timing, I am not with investing. I have been about 90% in equities for years, and this has been a great ride even with the early 2000’s dip. I believe that by saving enough I can enjoy the stock market returns and remain in equities even in retirement and weather any dips until the market recovers.
I know many might say that a 3% or even 4% SWR is essentially 100% safe, but given that we will need to live on savings upwards of 50 years, and have the expenses and responsibilities of raising children, including college, I want to be well cushioned. While my job is pretty good, I still prefer Saturdays to Mondays. Am I needlessly prolonging my working career by seeking 2%?
Thoughts anyone?
firewhen
We are in our early 40’s with 2 young children
No pension or health care insurance once I stop working (so other than savings we are entirely on our own)
We were both working and LBYM for many years until the children arrived
DW stopped working a few months ago. Between day care, commuting, taxes and the stress on the family it was not worth it. For the first time I analyzed our finances to see how we would do on 1 income. To my surprise, we spend much less than I imagined.
I want to be conservative given that we have no outside support other than Soc Sec 2 decades from now, and with children we are unwilling to radically change our circumstances (i.e. no move to a cheaper foreign country or to another part of this country). I have set a goal of FIRE when we have savings equal to 50 times our expenses. Said another way this is a 2% SWR. I know doing this will delay RE, perhaps substantially if the stock market underperforms. While I am conservative with RE timing, I am not with investing. I have been about 90% in equities for years, and this has been a great ride even with the early 2000’s dip. I believe that by saving enough I can enjoy the stock market returns and remain in equities even in retirement and weather any dips until the market recovers.
I know many might say that a 3% or even 4% SWR is essentially 100% safe, but given that we will need to live on savings upwards of 50 years, and have the expenses and responsibilities of raising children, including college, I want to be well cushioned. While my job is pretty good, I still prefer Saturdays to Mondays. Am I needlessly prolonging my working career by seeking 2%?
Thoughts anyone?
firewhen