Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
New beginnings
Old 10-29-2006, 01:17 PM   #1
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
MooreBonds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,179
New beginnings

Due to a previous lax approach to internet anonymity, as well as a hyperspace jump to FIRE status from a healthy year income-wise, I will be moving on to a new ID on the ER board:

MooreBonds

A play on both my favorite Bond character (Roger Moore) and an inclination to more fixed-income allocations as I start the prep work to FIRE myself in the next 5 years.

the poster formerly known as Peter76
__________________
Dryer sheets Schmyer sheets
MooreBonds is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Re: New beginnings
Old 10-29-2006, 01:22 PM   #2
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Pasadena CA
Posts: 3,346
Re: New beginnings

So what % of your AA and what type of bonds/fixed assets do you have?
__________________
T.S. Eliot:
Old men ought to be explorers
yakers is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: New beginnings
Old 10-29-2006, 07:11 PM   #3
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
MooreBonds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,179
Re: New beginnings

Quote:
Originally Posted by yakers
So what % of your AA and what type of bonds/fixed assets do you have?
I've gone through various adjustments in my speadsheets to determine just what categories to track, given that you can argue that things like utilities/REITs could be in a quasi-fixed income (part equity, part inflation hedge, part 'relatively' fixed-income), and just how funds like Wellesly would be categorized. However, given that I'm currently 29, I'm trying to keep myself from going too conservative at the present:
% of Net Worth / Current pre-tax yield
1.07% Utilities, 4.6% (will be increasing to about 2%)
8.81% REITs, 7.2%
8.38% Commodities, 5.2%
9.18% Municipal ETFs, 5.6%
18.72% Preferred stock, 8.4%
3.38% Closed-end bond funds, 7.7%
2.47% Individual Corporate Bonds, 9.2%
9.51% I-Bonds/Treasury Inflation Indexed Bond, 4.40% (avg 3.38% fixed + CPI)
61.5% Total, 6.7%...or, for argument's sake,
43.26% "Traditional" Bond fixed-income holdings, 5.3%

Hmmm..now that I update my AA and look at the above numbers...I'm starting to wonder if I should go for a name change to include some more equity exposure?

Why do I include commodities/REITs/Utilities in my quasi-fixed income? If you include inflation-indexed bonds as "fixed income", their ultimate yield will depend on the movement of commodities. While equities of oil and coal producers will not perfectly mimic the movement of commodities (and while there are many other components to your CPI than just oil), and although utilities and Real Estate are likewise imperfectly correlated to inflation, I figured it was worth a shot.
__________________
Dryer sheets Schmyer sheets
MooreBonds is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: New beginnings
Old 10-30-2006, 09:40 AM   #4
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Pasadena CA
Posts: 3,346
Re: New beginnings

That looks like top honors for fixed income management around here. Quite elaborate, diverse and pretty good return. Way over my head. Because of time, lack of substantial amounts to invest, and just not that much ability, I mostly stick to market wide index funds. My main deferred comp fund is a target retirement type fund. I do have some DRIP stocks and a few ibonds. My wife's 403b is in Wellesley, just where it should be for her.

I'm not sure I read the post correctly, is this the fixed income portion of your portfolio or all of it? I can't imagine being 29 and not holding 50%+ equities, although I'm not knocking that return at a fairly low risk level, but if stocks were to shoot up some gain would be missed.
__________________
T.S. Eliot:
Old men ought to be explorers
yakers is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: New beginnings
Old 10-30-2006, 12:22 PM   #5
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
MooreBonds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,179
Re: New beginnings

Quote:
Originally Posted by yakers
That looks like top honors for fixed income management around here. Quite elaborate, diverse and pretty good return. Way over my head. Because of time, lack of substantial amounts to invest, and just not that much ability, I mostly stick to market wide index funds. My main deferred comp fund is a target retirement type fund. I do have some DRIP stocks and a few ibonds. My wife's 403b is in Wellesley, just where it should be for her.
In 2000, I grew sick and tired of losing my ass(ets) over the previous 7 years as I started my experience in investing at the ripe young age of 16, and seeing my net worth rise and fall in almost perfect damped oscilliation sinusoidal movement (start at breakeven, drop 50%, rise to breakeven, drop 45%, rise to break even, drop 40 %, rise to break even), so I thought the relatively 'consistent' 6-8% returns of Munis, bond funds and REITS looked pretty damn good. Over the past 2 years, I pretty much put about 90% of my new money into equities (DRIPs, foreign ETFs, and even admitted that Wellesley and Wellington would be good additions). Perhaps if I admitted that I knew less than I did and didn't have time for it, I would have followed your path in my youth and would be at an even better position now than I am. But, such is life.

Quote:
Originally Posted by yakers
I'm not sure I read the post correctly, is this the fixed income portion of your portfolio or all of it? I can't imagine being 29 and not holding 50%+ equities, although I'm not knocking that return at a fairly low risk level, but if stocks were to shoot up some gain would be missed.
The %ages on the left are the % of my total net worth. The %ages on the right are the yields (pre-tax). Yes, I hold 56.74% in "equities", although you could argue that some funds (like the ETFs that write covered calls on indexes and throw off about 7%-8%/year in dividends/cap gains/return of capital) are starting to blur the lines between equity, index, blend, hybrid, etc..
__________________
Dryer sheets Schmyer sheets
MooreBonds is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Quick Links

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:21 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.