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Old 09-10-2021, 10:12 PM   #21
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There is a lot of job vilification in the work world. .
You mean---"j*b" and "in the w*rk world".

Oh, I guess that was your point about vilification!
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Old 09-11-2021, 07:39 AM   #22
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You mean---"j*b" and "in the w*rk world".

Oh, I guess that was your point about vilification!
J*b vilification looms large in our legend here at the FIRE forums.
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What's in it for DH? Would you be picking up some of his household duties to make more free time for both of you on weekends? Sometimes have dinner on the table when he gets home? You could throw these things into discussions about you retiring, along with the financial and emotional issues you've described.
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Old 09-11-2021, 08:00 AM   #24
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Old 09-11-2021, 08:39 AM   #25
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Wow tough spot. I have to ask: Is ER something you and your DH have planned together and often discussed? If not, and you are coming to it on your own because, clearly, you can well afford to, that's trickier. DH and I were talking about retiring early while picking out wedding invitations.

I'd come at it from the standpoint that you fully support him continuing his career, and find a way to highlight benefits for him: You'll be less stressed, ie, happier to come home to. And 5 years will probably make no difference in your financial situation at 70, 80, or 102.

If none of that works, it's because he's not sure how to articulate what his real objection is, which may be more of a deep seated insecurity about income stopping, regardless of the impact to your joint bottom line. And I think you know that 5 years won't be the end if you did stay working, that's just a movable goal post. But it's telling he didn't open with something shorter...

Yes, counseling, joint best, but possibly solo for him particularly since you mention his prior depression. I'd probably say you'll give it to the end of the year, so he has a little time to adjust.

I don't envy you, I'm sure you realize this could become a real chasm for your marriage. Keep us posted.
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Good for you, OP, living your life and not that of Megacorp’s or even DH’s.
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Oh yeah, 50s mentality: Stand by your man! Even if he neglects or mistreats you, because you and your children are completely financially dependent on him.
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I'm one to post to this thread, as I'm in a situation with a reluctant spouse as well.


However, this week I found out that two people that had quit (one took an ER package), after taking time off to travel and just hangout, started adventure 2.0 in their lives. Perhaps the solution in your case is a new part time endeavor for your other half, such as volunteer work or even a job. One of the people I mentioned are now running a BnB with fantastic, creative breakfasts (too much work, imho) and the other is doing part time, low stress work on a contract basis (with good pay).
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