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05-15-2018, 03:41 PM
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Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 137
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Originally Posted by COcheesehead
I started tracking my net worth and portfolio value starting in 2006. You have a tendency to live in the here and now, so its fun to look back and for a brief moment feel proud of your financial accomplishments.
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Definitely! Looking back at our portfolio growth provides a nice counterpoint to a line from Stephen Stills' (arguably) best song: "Don't let the past remind us of what we are not now."
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05-15-2019, 01:14 PM
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#82
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 137
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Retirement | $500k | [$627k] | $755k | $884k | $920k | $1,088k | $1,272k | $1,377k | Savings | $165k | [$142] | $120k | $105k | $90k | $76k | $67k | $50k | Mortgage | $237k | $213k | $188k | $161k | $132k | $103k | $72k | $40k | Non-mortgage debt - | $18k | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 |
Another year, another update. The retirement investments have been all over the place this past year. Still, I'll take the $105k gain year-over-year (even if half of it came from our own pre-tax contributions + employer match).
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05-15-2019, 06:27 PM
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#83
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 2,533
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Originally Posted by 2B
The point of my ramble is to keep at least a year's living expenses in a safe, after tax account in case of disaster.
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I agree, but I see no reason not to do this incrementally, after paying down debt, in a ROTH IRA. All of the contributions can be taxed at any time, without incurring taxes or penalties.
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05-15-2019, 08:50 PM
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#84
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 105
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Great updates! Thanks for sharing.
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02-09-2020, 12:01 PM
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#85
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 137
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Mortgage update
I usually do a yearly financial update in this thread in May. I plan on doing this again in a few months, but I wanted to interrupt your regularly scheduled programming to announce that as of yesterday we have paid off the mortgage!
I'm keenly aware of the pay off vs don't pay off debates, and I respectfully request that this debate does not make its way into my thread. Suffice it to say that we've always maxed out our pre-tax accounts, have almost always maxed our Roth IRAs, and decided to divert our remaining funds toward the mortgage. Whether or not that was mathematically optimal, we are comfortable -- nay, happy -- with the decision we made. And it's now water under the bridge regardless.
The cool thing is that I can now afford to downshift my hours (DW is already on a PT schedule) if I want. After making sure our HVAC/roof/driveway/septic replacement funds are in good shape -- perhaps 6 more months of FT -- I intend to embark on an 80% work schedule. Over time I've come to realize that I don't want to fully pull the plug at age 45, but I would like to dip my toe in the water. If it goes well, I'd like to slowly downshift to 60%, possibly even 50%.
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02-09-2020, 12:18 PM
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#86
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: High Plains Non-Drifter
Posts: 314
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Just wanted to peek in here with a hearty congratulations. That's a great milestone.
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02-09-2020, 12:23 PM
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#87
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 137
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Originally Posted by WyomingLife
Just wanted to peek in here with a hearty congratulations. That's a great milestone.
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Thank you! It gives us a lot of satisfaction to have worked toward this milestone for almost 10 years, and finally see it come to fruition.
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02-09-2020, 05:58 PM
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#88
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 367
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Congrats! It’s a great feeling to pay off a mortgage.
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02-09-2020, 06:11 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,537
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Originally Posted by A Bird In Hand
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The cool thing is that I can now afford to downshift my hours (DW is already on a PT schedule) if I want. -- I intend to embark on an 80% work schedule. Over time I've come to realize that I don't want to fully pull the plug at age 45, but I would like to dip my toe in the water. If it goes well, I'd like to slowly downshift to 60%, possibly even 50%.
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Congrats on the mortgage payoff and the overall progress. I went to 80% last April and it has been fantastic. I'm already FI so this is just the glide slope to figure out what I want to do next. DW is moving the goal posts a bit so I may stay at my 80% a bit longer then I thought. I was hoping to go to 50% sometime later this year and still might. We'll see.
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02-09-2020, 06:19 PM
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#90
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 137
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Thanks man! Heck yeah, I'm a little giddy thinking about how the implications of no longer having the mortgage.
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02-09-2020, 06:25 PM
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#91
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 137
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Originally Posted by Bigdawg
Congrats on the mortgage payoff and the overall progress. I went to 80% last April and it has been fantastic. I'm already FI so this is just the glide slope to figure out what I want to do next. DW is moving the goal posts a bit so I may stay at my 80% a bit longer then I thought. I was hoping to go to 50% sometime later this year and still might. We'll see.
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I"m glad to hear you're enjoying your PT schedule! What does your 80% look like -- Fridays off? I'm considering that, or possibly 7 hours M-Thu and half-day Friday.
Like you, 80% is just the first stop I'm planning on the downshift train. If it goes well (and if management is amenable), I think I'd like to glide down to 50% eventually, but with stops at 70% and 60% along the way.
Best of luck to you. Hopefully your wife doesn't have OMY, or if she does, may you resolve it quickly and amicably.
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02-09-2020, 07:29 PM
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#92
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Originally Posted by A Bird In Hand
Thanks man! Heck yeah, I'm a little giddy thinking about how the implications of no longer having the mortgage.
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I was in my peak earnings years in the late 1990s when I paid off the mortgage in 1998. What that meant was I could easily live off a single biweekly paycheck while saving/investing the rest. My personal savings rate jumped to over 50% in 1999 and 2000, before I switched to working part-time in 2001. Even then, thanks to rising investment income (from all that added investment) after the markets recovered in 2002-2003, my personal savings rate returned to the 50%+ neighborhood.
The added investment income was another step toward my ER because it showed me I might not have to work to generate enough income to live off.
You like those implications, Bird In Hand?
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02-09-2020, 07:50 PM
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#93
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 137
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Originally Posted by scrabbler1
I was in my peak earnings years in the late 1990s when I paid off the mortgage in 1998. What that meant was I could easily live off a single biweekly paycheck while saving/investing the rest. My personal savings rate jumped to over 50% in 1999 and 2000, before I switched to working part-time in 2001.
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You like those implications, Bird In Hand?
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Hah, nicely done! I like to quip that, without the mortgage, I can afford to save more, work less, or spend more -- and I expect to do a bit of all three.
But in our case we've already done all the heavy lifting over the last 20+ years WRT retirement savings. The "save more" will probably just be a short-term sprint to shore up funds for the major home-related items I mentioned above. After that, we'll more than likely embark on a period of "save less" (i.e. in pre-tax accounts) as I downshift work hours.
As for spending more, we've been pretty stingy with family vacations during our intense savings period, and I think we'll probably start loosening up a bit there. We've also deferred a bunch of home maintenance and renovations, so I anticipate that will get some attention as well.
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07-23-2020, 12:42 PM
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#94
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Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 137
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Retirement | $500k | [$627k] | $755k | $884k | $920k | $1,088k | $1,272k | $1,377k | $1,520k | Savings | $165k | [$142] | $120k | $105k | $90k | $76k | $67k | $50k | $42k | Mortgage | $237k | $213k | $188k | $161k | $132k | $103k | $72k | $40k | $0k | Non-mortgage debt - | $18k | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $17k |
Oops! I'd been pretty good about updating this thread on about the same week each year, for many years in a row. This year has been a little...different, for obvious reasons, and I never got around to it back in May.
2020's numbers in May looked OK, up about $150k in retirement accounts over the previous year, and the mortgage is gone as previously noted. Of course markets have been on a tear over the last couple months. Currently retirement accounts are at ~$1,710k, with TNW around $2,150k (including home equity).
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05-08-2021, 12:35 PM
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#95
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Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 137
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Say what? My first post here was nine years ago, and here I am at 45, not retiring.
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Retirement | $500k | [$627k] | $755k | $884k | $920k | $1,088k | $1,272k | $1,377k | $1,520k | $2,145k | Savings | $165k | [$142] | $120k | $105k | $90k | $76k | $67k | $50k | $42k | $50k | Mortgage | $237k | $213k | $188k | $161k | $132k | $103k | $72k | $40k | $0k | $0k | Non-mortgage debt - | $18k | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $17k | $14.5k |
I guess the big story is that LNW doubled in the last 9 years -- twice. With the hot housing market, TNW is somewhere around $2,650K.
My spending estimates from almost a decade ago are at least 20% lower than what we think we are likely to spend in retirement. But for now we're enjoying our jobs, are raking in reasonable dough, and have no imminent plans to retire.
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05-08-2021, 02:32 PM
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#96
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 1,371
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Originally Posted by A Bird In Hand
Say what? My first post here was nine years ago, and here I am at 45, not retiring.
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Retirement | $500k | [$627k] | $755k | $884k | $920k | $1,088k | $1,272k | $1,377k | $1,520k | $2,145k | Savings | $165k | [$142] | $120k | $105k | $90k | $76k | $67k | $50k | $42k | $50k | Mortgage | $237k | $213k | $188k | $161k | $132k | $103k | $72k | $40k | $0k | $0k | Non-mortgage debt - | $18k | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $17k | $14.5k |
I guess the big story is that LNW doubled in the last 9 years -- twice. With the hot housing market, TNW is somewhere around $2,650K.
My spending estimates from almost a decade ago are at least 20% lower than what we think we are likely to spend in retirement. But for now we're enjoying our jobs, are raking in reasonable dough, and have no imminent plans to retire.
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You're in great shape! Carry on.
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05-30-2022, 10:20 AM
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#97
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Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 137
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Retirement | $500k | [$627k] | $755k | $884k | $920k | $1,088k | $1,272k | $1,377k | $1,520k | $2,145k | $2,150k | Savings | $165k | [$142] | $120k | $105k | $90k | $76k | $67k | $50k | $42k | $50k | $70 | Mortgage | $237k | $213k | $188k | $161k | $132k | $103k | $72k | $40k | $0k | $0k | $0k | Other debt - | $18k | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $17k | $14.5k | $10.8k |
Not a whole lot to say here. We threw a whole bunch more into retirement accounts last year than usual, which partially offset the market dip earlier this year. So we're about where we were a year ago, or I suppose ~9% lower if you count inflation.
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05-30-2022, 11:41 AM
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#98
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: North TX
Posts: 1,800
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You are almost exactly what we've done, just a few years older. We moved back in 2015, returning to w*rk. Me, my small biz now for 3+ years. DW has finally reduced her hours to 32-ish, working from home and a little travel. I'm coasting until she buys in fully.
Your progress is impressive, for sure.
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05-30-2022, 01:19 PM
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#99
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Chicago
Posts: 259
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Congratulations! Impressive journey. Look forward to following your progress.
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05-30-2022, 01:40 PM
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#100
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 2,533
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Making great progress! My only comment is that if you want to RE at 45, then having savings outside of tax-deferred is important, unless you have a large 401(k) and want to use the SEPP method (otherwise, you'll have to pay taxes and a 10% early withdrawal penalty, except on ROTH contributions).
I wish I had RE'd between 45-50. I had a goal of 50, which would have been almost perfect. But by 47, I had my first health problem (which is a fairly typical age), and my savings were only sufficient for a LEAN FIRE. So, I continued on until 55, which allowed me to Fat FIRE...but due to COVID, I missed out on two years of travel when my health was still fairly good and I still had stamina. So, I say, continue with the goal of 45, and enjoy your health while it's good!
One of the nice things about taxable brokerage account MFs or ETFs is that if you have them for 15 years or so, you'll likely have up to 50% LTCGs (long term capital gains), and due to the current LTCG exclusion, you may not have to pay ANY federal taxes on withdrawals (e.g., if you withdraw funds with 50% LTCGs, you can withdraw up to $166,700 annually and pay NO FEDERAL TAXES (currently, for MFJ, the first $83,350 of LTCGs are tax-free)!
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