JoeWras
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So this article in the WSJ (The housing slowdown is wreaking havoc on the short term rental market) got me thinking about AirBnB, VRBO and just the general effects of free money. The article is a little different than what I discuss in this post. It addresses some other issues.
I think when it is all over, economists will look at the period of 2010 to 2022 with awe and wonder. Perhaps awe that free money managed to likely stop what would have been a megascale Great Depression II. And wonder that the free money lasted so long, with studies on the interesting timing of a pandemic. It looked like the free money train was over, until the pandemic.
During the pandemic, some really wonky things happened with the return of free money. Tech wages spiraled out of control. Companies were free to give into demands of workers. Why not? Just take a free loan.
But what about the short term rental market? All this money returned at a time when people were close to home, or close to their old home which they were renting. Money was available to upgrade it for the short term market.
All these points are not addressed in the article. Here's my list of what I think are the pernicious effects of this trend:
1) People needing standard repairs were shut out or saw huge inflation as workers were wrapped up in the business of preparing short term rentals or flips
2) Housing units were taken off line during upgrades
3) Short term rentals remove starter homes from new buyers
4) Short term rentals have low occupancy, adding to the shortage crisis
5) Short term rentals are not always best for a neighborhood
I suppose the list could go on. I'm not 100% against these. We've used AirBnB a few times, with great success. But last year we ran into some sketch situations. The beer drinking owner living upstairs didn't give me great confidence. The owner renting out the garden shed disappointed me.
The garden shed thing really hurt. We liked one AirBnB which was a basement apartment. We were there last Christmas, and intended to go in the summer again. It was in a small W. NC town with tight parking. It was fine. But she apparently has become an AirBnB host addict, and decided to turn her garden shed into an extra AirBnB. There's goes the parking. And really, solar showers only for $180 per night?
The allure is strong. They can be useful. But is this the best use for our housing resources?
I dunno, I'm just thinking about how all that money had effects on real estate. It looks like it is still working its way out, and perhaps by next year we'll see if the contracting and repair situation gets better, and if there are more low end homes on the market.
I think when it is all over, economists will look at the period of 2010 to 2022 with awe and wonder. Perhaps awe that free money managed to likely stop what would have been a megascale Great Depression II. And wonder that the free money lasted so long, with studies on the interesting timing of a pandemic. It looked like the free money train was over, until the pandemic.
During the pandemic, some really wonky things happened with the return of free money. Tech wages spiraled out of control. Companies were free to give into demands of workers. Why not? Just take a free loan.
But what about the short term rental market? All this money returned at a time when people were close to home, or close to their old home which they were renting. Money was available to upgrade it for the short term market.
All these points are not addressed in the article. Here's my list of what I think are the pernicious effects of this trend:
1) People needing standard repairs were shut out or saw huge inflation as workers were wrapped up in the business of preparing short term rentals or flips
2) Housing units were taken off line during upgrades
3) Short term rentals remove starter homes from new buyers
4) Short term rentals have low occupancy, adding to the shortage crisis
5) Short term rentals are not always best for a neighborhood
I suppose the list could go on. I'm not 100% against these. We've used AirBnB a few times, with great success. But last year we ran into some sketch situations. The beer drinking owner living upstairs didn't give me great confidence. The owner renting out the garden shed disappointed me.
The garden shed thing really hurt. We liked one AirBnB which was a basement apartment. We were there last Christmas, and intended to go in the summer again. It was in a small W. NC town with tight parking. It was fine. But she apparently has become an AirBnB host addict, and decided to turn her garden shed into an extra AirBnB. There's goes the parking. And really, solar showers only for $180 per night?
The allure is strong. They can be useful. But is this the best use for our housing resources?
I dunno, I'm just thinking about how all that money had effects on real estate. It looks like it is still working its way out, and perhaps by next year we'll see if the contracting and repair situation gets better, and if there are more low end homes on the market.