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I've tried all of them Mentioned here that are Chains..... For myself no Chain Burger beats a Smashburger -- They don't use frozen meat..... Try a "Classic Smash'
Yeah, that's another one on my list to try. Someday when I move perhaps I will have the opportunity to do that. Unfortunately, that won't be anytime soon.
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From what I understand, and that is subject to me being smarter tomorrow than I was yesterday, HFCS is much cheaper than other forms of sugar. Because of that food manufacturers are able to use more of it and still meet their financial goals. Thus, more sugar in foods than ever before.

FWIW, the other day I bought a can of 'Organic' tomato sauce to use in a recipe. To my surprise it contained quite a bit of organic sugar. Ugh! My mother used to add a teaspoon or two of sugar to a big pot tomato sauce to counter the acidity. This 14 oz can had 20 g of the stuff, about 4 tsp.
Tomatoes contain a lot of sugar. It's a fruit after all. Are you sure that a big part of that 20g wasn't the sugar already in the tomatoes?
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From what I understand, and that is subject to me being smarter tomorrow than I was yesterday, HFCS is much cheaper than other forms of sugar. Because of that food manufacturers are able to use more of it and still meet their financial goals. Thus, more sugar in foods than ever before.

FWIW, the other day I bought a can of 'Organic' tomato sauce to use in a recipe. To my surprise it contained quite a bit of organic sugar. Ugh! My mother used to add a teaspoon or two of sugar to a big pot tomato sauce to counter the acidity. This 14 oz can had 20 g of the stuff, about 4 tsp.
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Tomatoes contain a lot of sugar. It's a fruit after all. Are you sure that a big part of that 20g wasn't the sugar already in the tomatoes?
I’m curious what brand of tomato sauce that was, appears to be some added sugar. Here’s Hunt’s Organic Tomato Sauce with 14g sugar in a full can, none added.

https://smartlabel.labelinsight.com/...1819/nutrition
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Wow, 23 pages devoted to favorite fast food hamburgers and fries!

I haven’t had the fortune to live near any Whataburgers, Shake Shacks, Steak-n-Shake, Culver’s, or White Castles. Are these east coast and Midwest?

I enjoy Smashburger and The Habit. And inside my local Whole Foods market, there is a pub and grill that makes a very satisfying burger and fries.

I’ve had disappointing hamburgers at Sonic, Five Guys, In-n-Out, and McD, but I do like the fries at Five Guys, In-n-Out, and McD.
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Wow, 23 pages devoted to favorite fast food hamburgers and fries!

I haven’t had the fortune to live near any Whataburgers, Shake Shacks, Steak-n-Shake, Culver’s, or White Castles. Are these east coast and Midwest?

I enjoy Smashburger and The Habit. And inside my local Whole Foods market, there is a pub and grill that makes a very satisfying burger and fries.

I’ve had disappointing hamburgers at Sonic, Five Guys, In-n-Out, and McD, but I do like the fries at Five Guys, In-n-Out, and McD.
Whataburger is Texas only (no sense spreading the goodness).
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Whataburger is Texas only (no sense spreading the goodness).
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Whataburger is Texas only (no sense spreading the goodness).

I first ate Whataburger in 1970 in Tallahassee Florida. We had them once a week. My Opinion of Whataburger is that they appeal to those that prefer Quantity first. They are BIG!


Try the Classic Smash at Smashburger, if you have not.
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What’s the most you’ve paid for a burger?

I think I paid around $25 at a hotel in Hong Kong.

I don’t remember what it was like but a lot of it was about the views.


Probably at “21” in NYC. Good not great. Spendy. Chicken Hash and steak tartare are nice though. Been a few years. Has a casual spot upstairs now.
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Originally Posted by ERD50 I don't know why people fear HFCS. As far as ketchup and calories, 1 TBS of ketchup only has 19 calories, that's not gonna break anyone's calorie bank.
From what I understand, and that is subject to me being smarter tomorrow than I was yesterday, HFCS is much cheaper than other forms of sugar. Because of that food manufacturers are able to use more of it and still meet their financial goals. Thus, more sugar in foods than ever before.

FWIW, the other day I bought a can of 'Organic' tomato sauce to use in a recipe. To my surprise it contained quite a bit of organic sugar. Ugh! My mother used to add a teaspoon or two of sugar to a big pot tomato sauce to counter the acidity. This 14 oz can had 20 g of the stuff, about 4 tsp.
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Tomatoes contain a lot of sugar. It's a fruit after all. Are you sure that a big part of that 20g wasn't the sugar already in the tomatoes?
I got curious - yes, tomatoes have sugar in them. And this link says a "no added sugar" canned tomato has 25 grams of sugar per 14 oz.

https://www.calorieking.com/foods/ca...kPTU3ODcz.html

Another "fake-out" is when they say "no sugar added", but the ingredient list has "sugar cane juice", or "concentrated white grape juice" , etc.

Opps, this is the "burger (non-table service, chain) and fries thread". I'm out.


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Tomatoes contain a lot of sugar. It's a fruit after all. Are you sure that a big part of that 20g wasn't the sugar already in the tomatoes?
Maybe we should have a thread debating whether tomato is a fruit or a veg. That’s a good way to derail this thread.
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Maybe we should have a thread debating whether tomato is a fruit or a veg. That’s a good way to derail this thread.
It has already been decided. Botanically, tomato is a fruit, but legally, it's a veggie, as decided by the US Supreme Court in 1883.

What happened was that at that time, there was a tax on imported veggie, but not on imported fruits. John Nix, a tomato importer, sued Hedden, the tax collector of NY, in order to seek reimbursement of the duties paid under protest.

The case went all the way to the US Supreme Court, who after listening to various expert witnesses ruled that the tax stayed. The court opinion was that, although the tomato was a botanical fruit, it was eaten during a meal as a veggie, and not during dessert as a fruit. And so, what was served and eaten as a veggie had to be taxed as a veggie.

For more, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden.

By the way, in another court case, the green bean was similarly classified as a veggie, even though it was botanically a seed.
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I forgot to mention Carl's Jr too. It's not my favorite, however I like it much more than BK, McD's. What I like about Carl's Jr. is that it is the shortest driving distance from my house and I like their burger and fries. When the closest fast food is nine miles one way with the exception of one only 5 miles one way, then sometimes I give the one closer to me preference.



Some day I hope to be able to try Whataburger , Shake Shack, and Five Guys.
They opened a Hardees near me, after 6 months they changed to a Carls Jr, another 6 months and they closed.
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I've tried all of them Mentioned here that are Chains..... For myself no Chain Burger beats a Smashburger -- They don't use frozen meat..... Try a "Classic Smash'
One opened nearby recently. On my list to try.

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They opened a Hardees near me, after 6 months they changed to a Carls Jr, another 6 months and they closed.
Same company after a merger/buyout about 15 years ago. I'm not a fan, although I do like Hardees sausage and gravy biscuit. I haven't had it in years because I fear it is likely very, very unhealthy.
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One opened nearby recently. On my list to try.


Same company after a merger/buyout about 15 years ago. I'm not a fan, although I do like Hardees sausage and gravy biscuit. I haven't had it in years because I fear it is likely very, very unhealthy.
Hardee's/Carl's Double Monster Thickburger gets nods as the most calorie-laden burger in the fast-food universe. It also holds over 3,000 mg of sodium. Yum!

from Fox News: "Hardee’s and Carl’s Jr.’s legendarily unhealthy 2/3rd-pound Monster Thickburger is a beast of a burger, and contains an insane amount of calories: 1,340, to be exact. It also clocks in at 96 grams of fat, 34 grams of saturated fat, 275 milligrams of cholesterol, and 3,130 milligrams of sodium, more than double the American Heart Association’s suggested daily intake."
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For those who occasionally travel I-41 (old US 41) through eastern Wisconsin, I recommend a stop at Tucker's Drive-in in Fond du Lac. There are a couple locations.

Something inspired great drive-in restaurants in the city; perhaps it was the through traffic on Highway 41. Here's a pic of The Beer Hut, a carhop spot that would bring bottled beer out to your car.

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For those who occasionally travel I-41 (old US 41) through eastern Wisconsin, I recommend a stop at Tucker's Drive-in in Fond du Lac. There are a couple locations.

Something inspired great drive-in restaurants in the city; perhaps it was the through traffic on Highway 41. Here's a pic of The Beer Hut, a carhop spot that would bring bottled beer out to your car.

Ah, I miss Wisconsin!
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That's a sin!

Then again, I go all the way with a Chicago style hotdog and add a little ketchup. Forgive my sin!

BTW, to all those outside of Chicago who try to create a Chicago style hot dog and you neglect to steam a poppy seed bun, please, don't even try. OK? Gotta get that right. And the celery salt. And... Well, ya gotta get it right! Keep the ketchup off and leave it to the sinners to do it themselves.


Went to Perillo’s for the first time awhile back. I got a burger but my buddy got a Chicago dog and he was chastised for putting ketchup (or is it catsup) on it.
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Yeah I prefer ketchup on hot dogs too.

Honey mustard is okay but that sour stuff is too much.
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Sonic’s burgers are pretty generic, though the Hatch chili burger isn’t bad, but the tator tots rock! [emoji51]

Whataburger is a regular morning travel stop, for coffee and a “meat biscuit”.

Back in the day, the cruisers in our Smalltown USA traveled the strip between Cliff’s Drive-In at one end of town, and the Park-n-Eat at the other. Cliff’s had the phone system for order placement, with delivery by carhop, while the PNE carhops did both. IIRC, the Cliff burger had a sort of tarter sauce dressing, similar to a Big Mac.

Cliff’s is now home to a dog grooming business. The Park-n-Eat is a parking lot...
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