Constant need to "verify" devices

[harllee]

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Originally Posted by folivier Here's the problem for me and my DW. Our mountain cabin has internet but we have to drive a couple miles to get a cell signal. So whenever someone needs to send us a code by text message we have to hurry and drive to get the code then hope we can get back before the code expires. Yes, it's a problem here and since we spend at least 1/2 the year up here it's pretty aggravating. And no our fairly new cell phones won't do wifi calling so we rely on MagicJack VOIP.

Sometimes we have this problem in our mountain cabin. In that case one of us goes down the mountain to get the text number and calls the other one who is back at the cabin on with the computer on the internet.

[HGTVFanatic]

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Originally Posted by Amethyst No hotspot, and no indication of router issues. I'm using Chrome.

There’s no way I would be using Chrome.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...h=3346a37e61a7

[marko]

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Originally Posted by HGTVFanatic There’s no way I would be using Chrome.

How can 3.2 BILLION users (almost half the world population) be wrong?

[Amethyst]

I figured if I named a browser, somebody would say it was bad.

[MRG]

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Originally Posted by Amethyst I figured if I named a browser, somebody would say it was bad.

+1
Software has about the same fanatics as religion.

Don't get me started on the best way to clear a register.

[Octothorpe]

Just now I got the "verification needed" message stating that I was to enter the security code. My phone never rang. The call was directed to my voicemail because my phone system determined it was a possible spam call!!! When I listened to the message, it said to press 1 to receive the one-time-code! I ended up having to turn off the call filtering on my phone to get the blasted login code.

[COcheesehead]

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Originally Posted by Octothorpe Just now I got the "verification needed" message stating that I was to enter the security code. My phone never rang. The call was directed to my voicemail because my phone system determined it was a possible spam call!!! When I listened to the message, it said to press 1 to receive the one-time-code! I ended up having to turn off the call filtering on my phone to get the blasted login code.

As we age I think it’s important that we keep up with at least a base level of technology. A simple text over a cellular phone would have made this situation an easy one.

[DayDreaming]

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Originally Posted by folivier Here's the problem for me and my DW. Our mountain cabin has internet but we have to drive a couple miles to get a cell signal. So whenever someone needs to send us a code by text message we have to hurry and drive to get the code then hope we can get back before the code expires. Yes, it's a problem here and since we spend at least 1/2 the year up here it's pretty aggravating. And no our fairly new cell phones won't do wifi calling so we rely on MagicJack VOIP.

You can get a Google Voice (GV) number, and associate your cell phone# to the GV number. Configure GV to forward texts and voice transcripts to your email.
Give the GV number to websites that do 2-factor verification. At your cabin, you'll get that verification code in the email that GV sends you.

I have my phone setup this way - I always give out the GV number, nobody knows the actual cell phone#. My cell phone is off more than it's on, so I actually send and receive more texts from my desktop computer than I do with my cell phone. The only thing I found that doesn't work with the GV number is Uber. GV is really VOIP and Uber only works on a 'real' cell phone number, not a VOIP number (at least the last time I used it).

[Gumby]

Most of the sites I use can send the verification code by voice, text or email. You just have to set it up your preference in your account.

[target2019]

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Originally Posted by marko How can 3.2 BILLION users (almost half the world population) be wrong?

Almost 3 billion active Facebook users...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...rk%20worldwide.

[2cheap2eat]

What also annoying is that Company's apps need requiring logging in again with ID & Password, then enabled FaceID (for iPhones). It's clearly optional to forget the user as some apps keep the FaceID setup, some force login again.

It's quite annoying as many Company's push app updates out often (i.e. every couple of weeks). I have an online bank (Live Oak) that falls in this category and I stopped using because it was so annoying. I contacted them to let them know and in my app review.

[Still_Waters_43]

Another thing that can cause this issue, with unknown devices, is if you use a utility app to clean up your computer (e.g. I use CCleaner). The default setup of these apps usually cleans (i.e. deletes) cookies. So, if you run it between logins the website will not recognize your device.

[mcbraemer]

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Originally Posted by Chuckanut Repeated use of 2FA techniques while tiresome at times is far less effort than having to try to undo the effects of a successful theft of your online sign-on information. Consider it a modest time tax on being successful enough to need extra security.

+1
Well said!

[athena53]

Is there some sort of creepy Big Brother verification company that aggregates EVERYTHING? In trying to verify my identity with one of the credit bureaus they asked me what month DS was born. His birth records are in another state, he hasn't lived with me for 14 years and we have different last names.

Just last week I was setting up an account to access the results of my bloodwork and among the questions they asked were whether I'd owned a car from a list of models they provided and which organizations I'd belonged to out of a list. Toastmasters was on the list. No idea how the heck that got there except I was once on the bank account as District Treasurer. It also asked for my height as reported on my driver's license but I had to scan my driver's license to check in. I really hate handing over my driver's license to be scanned.

And, a bit closer to the OT- I installed apps for my brokerage accounts only so I could deposit the occasional check. I'm not going to go through 2-factor verification just to check my balance.

[NW-Bound]

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Originally Posted by marko How can 3.2 BILLION users (almost half the world population) be wrong?

In the past, all the world population thought the earth was flat, so I cannot be sure about the popular vote.

Oh, what are we talking about people being wrong here?

I had to look up the thread, to see we were talking about Chrome.

Well, I use it too, and as I mentioned, it did not work well with Treasury Direct site, while MS IE and now Edge does.

[Amethyst]

Yes; it's called Intelius, and it makes mistakes, such as associating me with a person I haven't lived with since 1979! Sometimes I worry what he may have been up to in the intervening decades, because he had my SSN.

Those multiple-choice questions are creepy. I've gotten ones about a car I owned in the early 1980's and an apartment that was so long ago, I didn't even recognize the address at first. They must catch a lot of people who are experiencing cognitive impairment.

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Originally Posted by athena53 Is there some sort of creepy Big Brother verification company that aggregates EVERYTHING?

[marko]

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Originally Posted by NW-Bound Oh, what are we talking about people being wrong here? I had to look up the thread, to see we were talking about Chrome.

The poster stated that they "would never use Chrome". I took at as an implication that it was viewed as some new-fangled, suspicious item.

I was just pointing out that as the world's most used browser it was hardly an untested software. Not perfect? Sure, but works well enough for most people I'd say.

[SecondCor521]

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Originally Posted by Amethyst Yes; it's called Intelius, and it makes mistakes, such as associating me with a person I haven't lived with since 1979! Sometimes I worry what he may have been up to in the intervening decades, because he had my SSN.

My Dad and I share a first name and a last name, and we lived at the same address when I was growing up. As a result, our credit histories have become intertwined.

Since we're both responsible people and the credit bureaus mostly get the data points right, it mostly hasn't been an issue.

But occasionally on these identity checks, I have to be careful because it'll ask me a question related to an address or something that is related to my Dad. Over time I've learned to notice these and realize that I have to effectively lie in order to pass the test (by answering as though I am my Dad on those items).

[SecondCor521]

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Originally Posted by harllee I don't understand why the 2 part verification is a problem. I like it and have to do it for most of my financial sites every time I log in. It takes less than a minute. I don't understand what the problem is.

One problem can be - and @Amethyst I think alluded to it earlier - is if the authentication doesn't work the way it was designed to by not lasting as long as advertised - then the user may be concerned that there has been a data breach or identity theft of some kind. Even if there has not been, tracking down whether or not something like that might have happened could mean at least a modest amount of time / effort / stress / annoyance.

At the very least, it's annoying when websites and other tech gadgets don't work as expected / designed / advertised.

[marko]

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Originally Posted by SecondCor521 My Dad and I share a first name and a last name, and we lived at the same address when I was growing up. As a result, our credit histories have become intertwined.

There's another guy, my age, my town with the same name...and it's not even a common name! He's a bad egg all his life and I've often had to do some difficult explaining. (One bank president called me aside once demanding that I stop passing bad checks! A classic "it wasn't me! it was him!")

I always have to use my first AND middle initial.