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11-02-2019, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieB
It got down to 42 degrees last night. I'm looking forward to stokin' the first fire of the season!
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We haven't been down to freezing yet but the fire is so nice that I couldn't resist last night. Getting a couple face cords in today to augment the wood from the various limbs knocked down from various windstorms last year. We usually go through 6 face cords or so.
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11-02-2019, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by donheff
Did I read somewhere that this is the end of daylight savings time forever?
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Ohio has a pending bill that would make DST permanent starting next year when we "spring forward" again.
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11-02-2019, 09:36 AM
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I'm using my extra tax-free hour to change the smoke in my battery detectors.
And I thought for sure this thread would bring redduck out of hiding.
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11-02-2019, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mountainsoft
Not yet. Apparently states can adopt standard time year round. I think Arizona and Hawaii stay on standard time. But there is some restriction that prevents states from remaining on daylight savings time. Don't know why?
From what I've heard Washington and Oregon both have bills to switch to year long daylight savings, but California would have to agree (all states in the same time zone), then the government would have to approve the change. In other words, probably not gonna happen.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...grows-n1043051
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In Australia, Queensland and New South Wales are in the same time zone but Queensland does not do Daylight Savings Time. Just have to remember to turn your clocks back one hour when crossing the border in the summer.
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11-02-2019, 12:25 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2018
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and a bill to make DST permanent has been introduced by Sen Rubio (FL) but no action has been taken. personally i don't mind the switch.
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11-02-2019, 07:51 PM
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I'd love never having to switch. I'd prefer to have standard time be made the standard, but I'll take permanent DST.
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11-03-2019, 03:05 AM
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We had it during the 1970's. As I recall, everybody liked it. Then people started complaining that little kids were walking to school in the dark. So, Congress changed it back.
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl
I'd love never having to switch. I'd prefer to have standard time be made the standard, but I'll take permanent DST.
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11-03-2019, 05:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rk911
heck, the Christmas stuff has been up in some stores since the beginning of October.
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Yup. I was in Costco the other day and they already had Christmas trees out.
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11-03-2019, 05:56 AM
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Hey, Walmart in my Dad’s small town was putting out artificial Xmas trees at the same time as Halloween and fall decorations near the end of September this year!
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11-03-2019, 08:01 AM
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Costco has had Christmas things out for over a month in my neck of the woods.
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11-03-2019, 08:13 AM
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Along the eastern border of the Central time zone, DST sucks. While it doesn't matter to us retirees too much, w*rking folk are forced to do anything outside after work in the dark. (Sunset here today at 4:46PM)
I'd prefer Standard time.
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11-03-2019, 08:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rk911
Personally i don't mind the switch.
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How many devices do you have to change?
For us, it's over fourteen devices(!), including the thermostat, two watches, oven, microwave, the timer for the dehumidifier, three analog wall clocks, bedside clock radios, two cars, etc. Lena just had to drive the truck out of the garage because it wasn't light enough inside to see what she was doing.
I had to change the two clocks in the Leaf (dashboard and media player). For the latter, it took me five minutes to figure out how to change it (not intuitive).
All of those devices have a different interface, sometimes requiring finding the manual.
If it takes twenty minutes*, that's forty minutes a year times 127 million households and equals over eight million lost man hours per year. Insane!
*Took me longer because I had to come on here and bitch about it.
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11-03-2019, 08:58 AM
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As I said in another thread:
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Originally Posted by braumeister
Microwave, oven, and toaster oven. Had to spend ten seconds on each.
Everything else, including our cars, updated itself back to standard time last night.
Sometimes you just gotta love the Internet of Things!
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11-03-2019, 09:08 AM
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I much appreciate today's hour of temporal stimulus. Today is 1/24 = 4.2% longer than most other days. That's 4.2% more time to w*rk, goof off, shop, pay taxes, etc. Hey, when fiscal stimulus no longer helps, Congress can make permanent the daily extra hour and goose the economy another 4.2%. That doesn't even include all the jobs created to make 25-hour clocks, rewrite all schedules, reprogram every piece of important software, ...
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11-03-2019, 09:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by braumeister
As I said in another thread:
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+1
Today was the first time I didn't have to change DW's vehicle! Last ten years I had to look it up as it was the most counter-intuitive interface I've ever seen!
That said I'd love DST all year round. It's not as big of deal after retirement thankfully. I used to watch myself about this time of year. Perhaps SAD, but it was depressing to go to work in the dark and drive home in it.
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11-03-2019, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl
How many devices do you have to change?
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Three.
I already changed the clock here in my den. My computer and phone automatically changed.
I still need to change my alarm clock (which I will do at bedtime), and when we go out to lunch I'll change the clock in my Venza.
I don't use the clock on my oven, or the one on my microwave, so they always display something crazy instead of the actual time. My thermostat is manual. I don't wear a watch.
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11-03-2019, 11:42 AM
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5 clocks including the car have to be changed. 7 more devices update automatically.
I also would not object to canceling the twice a year time changes.
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11-03-2019, 12:10 PM
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#38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TromboneAl
How many devices do you have to change?
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One. The clock in my car is the only thing I have to change manually. My computer and phone change automatically and that's all I have with the time on it. One of the positives of not owning more than I need.
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11-03-2019, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LRDave
Along the eastern border of the Central time zone, DST sucks. While it doesn't matter to us retirees too much, w*rking folk are forced to do anything outside after work in the dark. (Sunset here today at 4:46PM)
I'd prefer Standard time.
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Agreed. My new job requires me to work until 4:30. Sunset is 4:36. I can't rake leaves, mow lawn, or anything else outside except weekends from now on. The leaves on my trees are the last on the block to fall and i'm still raking until at least Thanksgiving. Now I can only do it on the weekend so I hope it's not raining or snowing on the weekend. Also, I will no be leaving for work before the sun is up enough to not have my lights on AND be leaving work after it's too dark to drive without lights on. So i'm basically working the entire daytime hours.
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11-03-2019, 12:41 PM
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Another disadvantage to living in Paradise is that we do not change time. Sounds good, actually. Unfortunately, all the national program times change and the local cable feed can never catch up until they are inundated with complaints (I guess.) So, the DVR will be recording (or not) the wrong stuff for the next 2 or 3 days. Well, I could be wrong this time. It's only happened every other time - they could get it right this time, so YMMV.
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