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02-11-2007, 03:28 PM
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English Language
DW and I were discussing oddities in the English language this AM. Here are two things that I learned (or clarified ) and I found interesting.
When do you use "fewer" and when do you use "less"? Well it seems that fewer is used when you are referring to things that can be counted. For example, "That box has fewer hammers in it than the other one." Less is used when referring to conceptual things that can not be counted. For example, "The less I think about it, the happier I am."
When do you use "etc." and when do you use "et al." in a sentence? You use etc. when there are no people involved in the thought. For example, "I'm buying the food today including apples, mustard, bread, etc.". You use et al. when referring to people (named or unnamed). For example, " I am going to call John, Mike, the director, et al. tonight"
Note: etc. should always end with a period. For et al., use a period only at the end of al. Both are abreviations (latin) but et is not.
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02-11-2007, 03:30 PM
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Re: English Language
Less can also be used with tangible things that cannot be individually identified -- That bucket has less water in it than this one.
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02-11-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: English Language
If it helps, et cetera is Latin for "and the rest", and et alias is Latin for "and the others".
And please don't spell it "ect." or pronounce it "excetra"!
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02-11-2007, 11:30 PM
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Re: English Language
And flammable and inflammable mean the same thing.
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02-12-2007, 06:43 AM
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Re: English Language
What's that in the road, ahead?
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02-12-2007, 08:14 AM
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Re: English Language
Quote:
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And flammable and inflammable mean the same thing.
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And cleave is its own antonym.
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02-12-2007, 08:52 AM
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Re: English Language
cargo is sent on ships and shipping goes in trucks
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02-12-2007, 08:56 AM
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Re: English Language
Irregardless(which is not a word), it all makes sense.
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02-12-2007, 09:02 AM
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Re: English Language
And my favorite......... Your You're right about that!
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02-12-2007, 09:21 AM
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Re: English Language
One used frequently here..."It's a mute moot point."
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02-12-2007, 09:24 AM
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Re: English Language
As CFB would say, dont get me started!
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02-12-2007, 09:24 AM
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Re: English Language
Wouldn't it make more sense simply to say "walking" instead of "making his way"?
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02-12-2007, 09:36 AM
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Re: English Language
Note about above posts: Their own the rite trak.
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02-12-2007, 11:18 AM
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Re: English Language
Check out this link about the English Language.
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02-12-2007, 11:49 AM
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Re: English Language
We drive on a parkway and park in a driveway...
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02-12-2007, 01:50 PM
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Re: English Language
Quote:
Originally Posted by yelnad
Check out this link about the English Language.
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"Why does a man get a hernia and a woman a hysterectomy?"
He is kind of messed up here. True, biological men don't get hysterectomies, but plenty women get hernias. All it takes for a hernia is some weakend abdomen, and some bowel to push through. Last I checked women always have bowel, and may have weakened or separated abdominal muscles.
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02-12-2007, 02:37 PM
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Re: English Language
"I could care less." This sets me off. Apparently, I *could* care less.
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02-12-2007, 02:39 PM
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Re: English Language
I used to write articles for trade rags once in a while. An editor told me that I wrote well for an engineer -- she didn't have to change much at all. I asked her why she changed "... implement interface A which can't be ..." to "... implement interface A that can't be ..."? When do you use "that" vs "which?"
She explained that you always use that with a restrictive clause. It took me a few more years, but I think I finally got that.
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02-12-2007, 02:54 PM
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Re: English Language
I just wanna know why all the bad medical things that happen to women start with "men"...
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Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. Just another form of "buy low, sell high" for those who have trouble with things. This rule is not universal. Do not buy a 1973 Pinto because everyone else is afraid of it.
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02-12-2007, 03:41 PM
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Re: English Language
Meningitis?
Meningococcal disease?
Meniere's disease?
Meniscus?
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