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Old 10-01-2007, 09:18 AM   #1
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Garage Door help

This forum has been a huge help to me as I have transformed myself from a happy and careless condo dweller into a soon to be broke owner of a 40 year old nightmarehome

I have put off replacing my garage door, but the 1970's styling along with the rotting parts is really getting to my wife.

So I have a quote, which seems high to me, I thought I would ask the more seasoned homeowners here. It's a Raynor door, steel (r12 insulation value), new tracks and hardware, and install for $1800 which includes removing and disposal of the old door. This is for a 2 car garage (one door) with windows.

Is that in the right ballpark?
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:28 AM   #2
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New construction I am paying $1400 for two all steel single doors. Thanks for the reminder I need to call them today with CC info. The sizes on mine are not standard 9 wide 8 tall which required special ordering. Bought mine through Overhead door Overhead Door Systems | Residential Garage Doors. They have a good reputation in my area. $1800 for a double door does not sound way out of line for replacement. I would get another quote to set your mind at ease.
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It's a Raynor door, steel (r12 insulation value), new tracks and hardware, and install for $1800 which includes removing and disposal of the old door. This is for a 2 car garage (one door) with windows.

Is that in the right ballpark?
Yes, that's a good price. Does it include re-installation of your existing opener? You'd probably want them to do that as well, as there can be issues (clearance for the actuating rail, binding of the door, etc) and if one company does it all, there's no finger pointing.

Also, you may need to decide if you want them to put the handles on the outside (so many folks now have openers that many installers don't put the handles on the outside in order to achieve a "cleaner" look). I had them put the handles on mine.
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If you don't put handles on the outside, then sometime when there's a power outage, someone will close the door with her fingers between the panels, and get them severely pinched.
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On a side note, how often and what do you use to keep the squeaks down on the track, spray dry silicon spray on the rollers and tracks??
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On a side note, how often and what do you use to keep the squeaks down on the track, spray dry silicon spray on the rollers and tracks??
I think white lithium grease is the lube of choice for this application. The spray-on stuff is easy to use.
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If you don't put handles on the outside, then sometime when there's a power outage, someone will close the door with her fingers between the panels, and get them severely pinched.
OR... the end chopped off like my mom did!!!!
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So I have a quote, which seems high to me, I thought I would ask the more seasoned homeowners here. It's a Raynor door, steel (r12 insulation value), new tracks and hardware, and install for $1800 which includes removing and disposal of the old door. This is for a 2 car garage (one door) with windows.
Is that in the right ballpark?
Holy cow, fly them out here when you're done. I'll still be ahead on local prices.

Have you asked what happens to the steel shell when a basketball hits it at full force, followed shortly by two teenagers? Of course you may not have that problem, but wood handles that situation a lot better... admittedly at a lower insulation value.

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If you don't put handles on the outside, then sometime when there's a power outage, someone will close the door with her fingers between the panels, and get them severely pinched.
Another vote here for handles. I've had too many torsion bars & springs break to live without them.

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I think white lithium grease is the lube of choice for this application. The spray-on stuff is easy to use.
I used that for years, but the last couple garage-door repair guys have recommended any ol' silicon spray. Apparently the grease is prone to attracting dirt and gunking up.
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Have you asked what happens to the steel shell when a basketball hits it at full force, followed shortly by two teenagers? Of course you may not have that problem, but wood handles that situation a lot better... admittedly at a lower insulation value.
That'swhy I have a TWO-SIDED steel door, windproof up to 80 mph............can't find a teenager warranty though.........
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I just put in a nice new door, brand new tracks, hardware, etc.

Was $700 for one car garage, so seems you are not too far off. Do it, and breath easier, I know I did.
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I had the Overhead Door guys here about 6 weeks ago to install a new steel (inside and out) insulated door....single car (9'x7'). No opener....handle on the outside. New door and track with installation, and removal/disposal of the old door and track was $920.
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Holy cow, fly them out here when you're done. I'll still be ahead on local prices.

Have you asked what happens to the steel shell when a basketball hits it at full force, followed shortly by two teenagers? Of course you may not have that problem, but wood handles that situation a lot better... admittedly at a lower insulation value.

Well Nords, I'll be in Oahu in early December. Let me see if I can bring one in my checked baggage

I have a long time before I have to worry about teenagers. Right now I'm more worried about insulation value considering what my heating bills were last winter.

Ok, so it seems like $1800 isn't that bad of a deal. Now I just need to decide whether I scratch the windows and save $350?
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... Now I just need to decide whether I scratch the windows and save $350?
Sounds like a lot of $$ for windows that IMHO detract from the appearance of most garage doors -- I've never understood why the mfg even offers them...
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Keep in mind that there are usualy 2 sizes of double garage doors, the 14" and the 16'. Average price difference starts at around $150.00 to $400.00 depending on quality and options.
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Sounds like a lot of $$ for windows that IMHO detract from the appearance of most garage doors -- I've never understood why the mfg even offers them...
Screw the windows, why give the young kids in the neighborhood a target to aim baseballs at? For $350,you can out a LOT of nice lights in the garage.........and use CFL's too..........
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Right now I'm more worried about insulation value considering what my heating bills were last winter.
Ok, so it seems like $1800 isn't that bad of a deal. Now I just need to decide whether I scratch the windows and save $350?
I think you've answered your question-- I bet garage-door windows don't have a very high R-rating.

Are these the windows that a burglar would look through to figure out if the cars are in the garage and whether there are any pit-bull feeding bowls?
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Go ahead and get the windows, most are double glazed.

Nifty trick I tried. Get a little aquarium and attach to inside of windows. Get a Fresnel lens and put one little shark fish in the tank. The lens will make it seem like a 15 ft Great White is in your garage.

Scares off burglars.
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