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12-04-2017, 07:22 AM
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Wow , I missed on every one of the games .. No upsets at all .. National championship , don't pick what I say could Georgia have a letdown after avenging their loss to Auburn . Could Clemson have a big head hangover , Could Bama come out to prove a point or could Oklahoma finally run into a real defense . Championship.
Oklahoma VS Bama .. Like I said don't bet on what I think.
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12-04-2017, 07:22 AM
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I favor an 8 team playoff too. With the parity in college footbal one could argue that #5 could have won it all in a 2-game playoff but I think it is hard to assert that #9 could win a 3-game playoff.
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12-04-2017, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Dawg52
May not happen anytime soon, but I believe they will have an 8 team playoff. All power 5 champions get auto berths and then 3 teams for a formula or committee to decide. That way you get more teams from across the country in and deserving conference runner ups, independents(ND) and maybe a lower conference that has a strong enough schedule to be considered. Of course there will be discussions of the final three as you can't make everyone happy.
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I agree about going to 8 but not sure about the automatic bids. In my opinion it should be the 8 best teams.
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12-04-2017, 07:51 AM
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I can't see them carrying it into February. I think it'd be more likely they have more games in December, like the FCS already does. I just don't get the undue influence the bowls seem to have on the whole process, but I think they could be incorporated much as they are today, with the non-playoff teams continuing to go to the smaller bowls and them major bowls hosting the semis and finals. I'd like to see any earlier round games on campus at the higher seeded teams as an incentive to keep the regular season meaningful.
My son and I are looking forward to going to the JMU quarterfinal game this weekend.
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12-04-2017, 07:52 AM
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gone traveling
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ExFlyBoy5
In the end I think it will be UGA v. Clemson and as much as I am rooting for the Georgia boys (if they can stop getting arrested...idiots!) I think Clemson will win it all by 10.
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I like the way your thinking! Go Tigers!
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12-04-2017, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Breedlove
Wow , I missed on every one of the games ..
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You got Ohio State right, so that's one!
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12-04-2017, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliKid
I agree about going to 8 but not sure about the automatic bids. In my opinion it should be the 8 best teams.
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I could go that way because some conferences have 10 teams, some have 14, and that seems a bit unfair. At least now all have championship games, which was an unfair hurdle for some to jump and some to skip.
But I could live with the 5 major conference champs, one from smaller conferences if they meet minimum criteria, and 2-3 wildcards. Notre Dame and other independents would only get in as wildcard, no automatic way as the BCS used to have. There has to be a way for a really good non-conference champ to get in, IMO, otherwise non-conference games become meaningless.
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12-04-2017, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Breedlove
Go Bulldogs beat Boise !
On Wisconsin , beat The Ohio State Buckeyes!
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oops - BSU played great; now the coogs get to beat up on fresno
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12-04-2017, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RunningBum
Check later. They should drop if they don't sell out that huge stadium. Not I said "if". They know right after the announcement of teams demand is high and they can charge high prices. If you have any association with either school you might be able to get face value tickets through them.
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Thanks, I'll check in a week or two.
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12-05-2017, 07:31 AM
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Easy way to end all the hyperbole, speculation, etc. about the CFP. You have to win your conference, period, end of story !
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12-05-2017, 09:15 AM
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#51
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Originally Posted by frayne
Easy way to end all the hyperbole, speculation, etc. about the CFP. You have to win your conference, period, end of story !
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That's a terrible idea because winning your conference doesn't take into account non-conference games at all. The NCAA basketball tourney used to be that way, and it didn't really take off in popularity until they opened the field to non-champions.
You could have Team A get blown out in the non-conference games against mediocre teams, lose a couple of conference games and barely squeak by the rest, but manage to win a weak division.
Team B absolutely crushes 3 tough non-conference opponents including Team C, rolls through their conference games including beating Team A 77-0.
A plays B in a rematch in their conference championship, but a flu wipes out much of Team B, the game is played in a raging blizzard or rainstorm, and a couple of horrible calls go A's way and they upset B by a point.
A goes instead of B? And Team C can win the playoffs without any risk of having to beat Team B in a rematch? No thanks. You could end all of the speculation, but it'd be a lousy playoff too many years.
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12-05-2017, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
True but irrelevant. A successful season need only include beating Army. Anything else is just gravy
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+1
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12-05-2017, 12:03 PM
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#53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RunningBum
That's a terrible idea because winning your conference doesn't take into account non-conference games at all. The NCAA basketball tourney used to be that way, and it didn't really take off in popularity until they opened the field to non-champions.
You could have Team A get blown out in the non-conference games against mediocre teams, lose a couple of conference games and barely squeak by the rest, but manage to win a weak division.
Team B absolutely crushes 3 tough non-conference opponents including Team C, rolls through their conference games including beating Team A 77-0.
A plays B in a rematch in their conference championship, but a flu wipes out much of Team B, the game is played in a raging blizzard or rainstorm, and a couple of horrible calls go A's way and they upset B by a point.
A goes instead of B? And Team C can win the playoffs without any risk of having to beat Team B in a rematch? No thanks. You could end all of the speculation, but it'd be a lousy playoff too many years.
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Here you go then little wisdom from Mike Leach; https://www.facebook.com/SWXRightNow...HU&pnref=story
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12-05-2017, 12:14 PM
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I can disagree with Leach too. I didn't listen to all of his rambling. Did he address how being a conference champion completely ignores non-conference games?
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12-05-2017, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RunningBum
I can disagree with Leach too. I didn't listen to all of his rambling. Did he address how being a conference champion completely ignores non-conference games?
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Watch the whole video, he is suggesting a play-off like the pros.
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12-05-2017, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frayne
Watch the whole video, he is suggesting a play-off like the pros.
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He rambled on about a lot of possibilities, including the pros, FCS, Division III, high schools, ...
There's a lot more parity in the NFL. You can base playoffs strictly on overall records and it'll hold up well. Two teams that goes 12-4 probably aren't that far off because there are only 32 teams and a lot of overlap of opponents. Two FBS college teams that go 10-2 are very possibly worlds apart in how good they really are, and may have no common opponents. And guess what, non-conference teams do make it into the NFL playoffs.
The FCS also include non-conference champions. Guess how they are selected? A committee. So Leach railed against committees, then suggested instead a system that uses...a committee.
I could go on. There are better options than what there is today. I'd be fine with:
- 8 team playoff, 5 major conf champs + 3 at large, with a possible automatic for a smaller conf champ
- 12 team playoff, same as above, but more at large teams, and also gives a bye to the top 4 teams as a huge incentive to make every game count
- 16 team playoff, all conference champions in plus fill with wildcards. I don't really like giving each of C-USA, SunBelt, etc, an automatic bid, so I don't really like this, but I could live with it.
All of these have at large teams to be selected, and I think that'd have to be by committee.
I don't want any playoff that allows only conference champions, as you said, for the reasons I gave earlier.
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