Portal Forums Links Register FAQ Community Calendar Log in

Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
I don't understand the Princess Diana Adulation
Old 07-01-2007, 02:54 PM   #1
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
dex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,105
I don't understand the Princess Diana Adulation

British princes honor Diana with concert - Yahoo! News

I really never understood the adulation of Princess Diana. Put aside she was a member of the British Royalty and the British can morn their royalty the way they wish for a moment.

What did she do that made her life exceptional and worthy of such attention?

Is this a case of "The Emperor's New Clothes" i.e. that no one is willing to speak up and say she didn't do too much realy.
The Emperor's New Clothes: Tales of type 1620

I think it is the case of people projecting a great deal upon someone born into priverlage; married into the royal family and died young.

Did she really do anything more than what a celerberty might have (e.g. Angelina Jolie).

Please set me straight if I'm wrong.
__________________
Sometimes death is not as tragic as not knowing how to live. This man knew how to live--and how to make others glad they were living. - Jack Benny at Nat King Cole's funeral
dex is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 07-01-2007, 04:54 PM   #2
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,375
you're not wrong dex, I agree, plus think the people obsessing on her would be better off obsessing on ER forum topics - would pay dividends I think...
Danny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 10:19 AM   #3
Recycles dryer sheets
Robert the Red's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 335
Her public persona was (a) a classic beauty (b) graceful (c) compassionate. Of these, I think (a) was the most critical, in that if she looked like Charles' current wife, she'd have been a 3 day sensation, then been dropped.
Robert the Red is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 11:53 AM   #4
Moderator Emeritus
CuppaJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: At The Cafe
Posts: 6,873
You’ve caught me in one of my guilty indulgences. The library doesn’t carry magazines about royalty so occasionally I treat myself to a copy of the very expensive (here) "Royalty" or "Majesty." They tend to be poorly written but full of photos and stories about past and present British royals and their relatives. I stayed up all night to see Charles’ and Diana’s wedding; I don’t think we’ve seen that high a level of reporting since, especially about the history of the royals. I’m very tired of tripping over that awful Matt Lawer interview with the boys and did not bother to watch the Diana special on Sunday. Oh, to be retired, and pick up a different out-of-town newspaper or magazine every day for the all important leisurely visit to the coffee shop.
CuppaJoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 12:31 PM   #5
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,085
Ick, royalty. People venerated simply for existing - yuck.
__________________
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

- George Orwell

Ezekiel 23:20
brewer12345 is offline   Reply With Quote
I Think Most People Have A Need...
Old 07-02-2007, 12:43 PM   #6
Dryer sheet aficionado
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 44
I Think Most People Have A Need...

...to worship and venerate something they perceive as greater than themselves. Throughout human history it's been the worship of gods of various sort. In modern culture, it's descended to the worship and adulation of celebrities.

The Brits have Diana. Are we that much better with our obsessions over Paris Hilton and Angelina Jolie?
talltrees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 12:57 PM   #7
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,085
Quote:
Originally Posted by talltrees View Post
...to worship and venerate something they perceive as greater than themselves. Throughout human history it's been the worship of gods of various sort. In modern culture, it's descended to the worship and adulation of celebrities.

The Brits have Diana. Are we that much better with our obsessions over Paris Hilton and Angelina Jolie?
Hey, the unwashed Merkin masses have lots of useless pop heroes. They need something besides a 6 pack and a fundy revival/tent meeting to get them through their days. But I don't think any of us would claim there is anything noble or great about it. And at least their objects of slobbering devotion weren't destined to be such just because of who they momma wuz.
__________________
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

- George Orwell

Ezekiel 23:20
brewer12345 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 03:31 PM   #8
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Ed_The_Gypsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: the City of Subdued Excitement
Posts: 5,588
I do not understand Americans who give any royalty the time of day. My opinion is the same as Mark Twain, who thought that the flag of Great Britain had no more legitimacy than the Jolly Roger--that royalty were simply the biggest pirates in the country.

I also bristle at inherited wealth.

(Of course, if I had been born in other circumstances, my opinion would be different. )
__________________
I have outlived most of the people I don't like and I am working on the rest.
Ed_The_Gypsy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 05:39 PM   #9
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
BigMoneyJim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Nomadic in the Rockies
Posts: 2,720
Someone recently told me that Paris Hilton is the USA's surrogate royalty. Sadly I think he's right. The Kennedys were (and somewhat still are) royal analogues. I don't get it, but I see that it happens.

By the way, one of Social Knowledge's other forums is a forum about the Royals. There's a link to it in the lower left of the page.
BigMoneyJim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 06:36 PM   #10
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,375
Paris & Diana and _______ are all a plot by our government to keep us distracted and uninvolved in the critical matters of the day...otherwise we might get and they would have to call out the and us silly
Danny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 06:54 PM   #11
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lawn chair in Texas
Posts: 14,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by talltrees View Post
Are we that much better with our obsessions over Paris Hilton and Angelina Jolie?
Do lesbian, threesome fantasies count?
__________________
Have Funds, Will Retire

...not doing anything of true substance...
HFWR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 10:09 PM   #12
Full time employment: Posting here.
bosco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 987
I find this thread amusing. Buncha yanks saying they don't understand the veneration of people "just for existing."

C'mon, be honest. Wouldn't the country have been better off if Ronald Reagan had been a figurehead king? Then everyone could have venerated him, and he wouldn't have had the power to empty out the mental hospitals onto the streets, run up huge deficits, and be manipulated by the likes of Ed Meese and the other crooks in his administration. He could have made his cutesy anecdotal speeches and not had his absent-minded finger anywhere near a nuclear button.

just kidding....sorta
__________________
I have an inferiority complex, but it's not a very good one.
bosco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 10:55 PM   #13
Dryer sheet aficionado
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanTien View Post
Paris & Diana and _______ are all a plot by our government to keep us distracted and uninvolved in the critical matters of the day...otherwise we might get and they would have to call out the and us silly
You just might be on to something.
talltrees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2007, 12:34 PM   #14
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 7,968
Quote:
Originally Posted by talltrees View Post
...to worship and venerate something they perceive as greater than themselves. Throughout human history it's been the worship of gods of various sort. In modern culture, it's descended to the worship and adulation of celebrities.

The Brits have Diana. Are we that much better with our obsessions over Paris Hilton and Angelina Jolie?
Buddy Holley Lives!

The heck with Elvis.

heh heh heh - the only member(and president) of the 'no good music since the Beach Boys club.'

unclemick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2007, 01:06 PM   #15
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
OAG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Central, Ohio, USA
Posts: 2,635
Princess Grace Kelly of the dictatorship of Monaco was the same thing about 30 years ago. She was even a bi-national. It seems every generation has its War, Heroes; both real and political, and I guess we have to add the Princess (both actual and otherwise) adoration factor now.

DanTien: has hit one nail on the head --- distraction of the masses.
__________________
Vietnam Veteran, CW4 USA, Retired 1979
OAG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2007, 01:18 PM   #16
Moderator Emeritus
CuppaJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: At The Cafe
Posts: 6,873
Imagine if the royals were taken out of Shakespeare. No Hamlet, no MacBeth, and gone would be my favorite, "Henry IV, Part 1," etc. etc.
CuppaJoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2007, 01:49 PM   #17
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
FinanceDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,483
Quote:
Originally Posted by bosco View Post
I find this thread amusing. Buncha yanks saying they don't understand the veneration of people "just for existing."

C'mon, be honest. Wouldn't the country have been better off if Ronald Reagan had been a figurehead king? Then everyone could have venerated him, and he wouldn't have had the power to empty out the mental hospitals onto the streets, run up huge deficits, and be manipulated by the likes of Ed Meese and the other crooks in his administration. He could have made his cutesy anecdotal speeches and not had his absent-minded finger anywhere near a nuclear button.

just kidding....sorta

Are you from moveover.org
__________________
Consult with your own advisor or representative. My thoughts should not be construed as investment advice. Past performance is no guarantee of future results (love that one).......:)


This Thread is USELESS without pics.........:)
FinanceDude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2007, 02:01 PM   #18
Gone but not forgotten
Khan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 6,924
Send a message via AIM to Khan
Quote:
Originally Posted by unclemick View Post
Buddy Holley Lives!

The heck with Elvis.

heh heh heh - the only member(and president) of the 'no good music since the Beach Boys club.'

"rock-n-roll's been going downhill ever since Buddy Holly died"
-"American Graffiti"

__________________
"Knowin' no one nowhere's gonna miss us when we're gone..."
Khan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2007, 03:49 PM   #19
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
cute fuzzy bunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Losing my whump
Posts: 22,708
Quote:
Originally Posted by unclemick View Post
the only member(and president) of the 'no good music since the Beach Boys club.'

Hey UM...beach boys are playing a concert this week at one of the casinos near my house.

Beach Boys at Jackson Rancheria (Wednesday, July 11, 2007) - Upcoming

My high school driving instructor was named Ed Meese.
__________________
Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. Just another form of "buy low, sell high" for those who have trouble with things. This rule is not universal. Do not buy a 1973 Pinto because everyone else is afraid of it.
cute fuzzy bunny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2007, 06:04 PM   #20
Full time employment: Posting here.
bosco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 987
Quote:
Originally Posted by FinanceDude View Post
Are you from moveover.org
don't know what it is, and the link doesn't work. so apparently not...
__________________
I have an inferiority complex, but it's not a very good one.
bosco is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Quick Links

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:30 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.