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Old 11-13-2007, 04:45 PM   #1
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Iraq War Cost $1.3 Trillion to date

Wish we could have spent that money on energy independence instead.


The Associated Press: Report Puts Hidden War Costs at $1.6T
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:07 PM   #2
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Wasn't this war supposed to pay for itself? I remember the post-Vietnam economic headache. This one's going to make that one feel like a good day.
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Wish we could have spent that money on energy independence instead. ....

Well Duh!

Iraq. Oil. Energy. Independence.

Change order as necessary. There you go.
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How dare you criticize the President when troops are in harms way! You'll be receiving a knock on your door in 20 minutes, I suggest you answer it!

The irony is the troop surge is working, which is something W fought against for years. We just start getting it right when the citizens have finally had a stomach full.
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Iraq War Cost $1.3 Trillion to date
Let's see...

No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in over 6 years...
No "dirty" nuclear bomb detonated on a major city...
And no dow at a negative 13,000 as a result.
Evidently "somebody" is doing a good job behind the scenes.

I'd say that any glimmer of "hope" in the middle east is probably a good investment for the free world's future, but I could be wrong.
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Huge waste of money! Another reason why the dollar keeps dropping in value.
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Let's see...

No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in over 6 years...
No "dirty" nuclear bomb detonated on a major city...
And no dow at a negative 13,000 as a result.
Evidently "somebody" is doing a good job behind the scenes.

I'd say that any glimmer of "hope" in the middle east is probably a good investment for the free world's future, but I could be wrong.
Clinton: 1993-1999

No terrorist attacks on US soil in over 6 years...
No "dirty" nuclear bomb detonated on a major city...
And no dow at a negative 13,000 as a result.
No 1.3T war, either.


I vote for Clinton's approach.
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Let's see...

No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in over 6 years...
No "dirty" nuclear bomb detonated on a major city...
And no dow at a negative 13,000 as a result.
Evidently "somebody" is doing a good job behind the scenes.

I'd say that any glimmer of "hope" in the middle east is probably a good investment for the free world's future, but I could be wrong.
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"But there aren't elephants for miles from here!"

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You got to it quicker than me... showing the flaw in logic.

The post is not a political dig against the republican party. The 1.3T just shows how a bad decision can cost us dearly... not to mention the people impacted in that country. Yes, Saddam was a bad guy. But... there are a litany of reasons to not go in country with an invasion.

I completely agree with the the Afghanistan war. It seems to me it was the right move.

IMHO - All of the rest of the war on terror should be covert operations and strong determined diplomacy (assassinations, Grab-imprison-interrogate-disappear, cruise missile, diplomacy, threats, spy, intel, economic, etc). No need to invade a country.
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You got to it quicker than me... showing the flaw in logic.

The post is not a political dig against the republican party. The 1.3T just shows how a bad decision can cost us dearly... not to mention the people impacted in that country. Yes, Saddam was a bad guy. But... there are a litany of reasons to not go in country with an invasion.

I completely agree with the the Afghanistan war. It seems to me it was the right move.

IMHO - All of the rest of the war on terror should be covert operations and strong determined diplomacy (assassinations, Grab-imprison-interrogate-disappear, cruise missile, diplomacy, threats, spy, intel, economic, etc). No need to invade a country.

I said this approach was the way to go over 5 years ago. we went into afgahnistan and found every book of names with the guys who went thru Bin Ladens camps. we should have hunted these people down in every part of the world undercover of night or whenever, and made them disappear. Maybe even their families if they were involved. The word on the street would have been such that we meant business. But the shock and AWE $HIT game had to be played in Iraq. Heck the Iranians were helpful the first few years after 9/11. But then that speech by the president.

Oh well.
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No terrorist attacks on US soil in over 6 years...
No "dirty" nuclear bomb detonated on a major city...
And no dow at a negative 13,000 as a result.
No 1.3T war, either.
I vote for Clinton's approach.
So........the 93 World Trade Bombing wasn't a terrorist attack? It really didn't happen? Wow..........
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I said this approach was the way to go over 5 years ago. we went into afgahnistan and found every book of names with the guys who went thru Bin Ladens camps. we should have hunted these people down in every part of the world undercover of night or whenever, and made them disappear. Maybe even their families if they were involved. The word on the street would have been such that we meant business. But the shock and AWE $HIT game had to be played in Iraq. Heck the Iranians were helpful the first few years after 9/11. But then that speech by the president.
Oh well.
Where's OAP when we need him....he was THERE.........
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Just you wait until the Iraqi oil fields start producing. They will sell us all the oil we want for $1.00 a barrel, from sheer gratitude.

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So........the 93 World Trade Bombing wasn't a terrorist attack? It really didn't happen? Wow..........
You can figure it out. Give it a try.
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IMHO - All of the rest of the war on terror should be covert operations and strong determined diplomacy (assassinations, Grab-imprison-interrogate-disappear, cruise missile, diplomacy, threats, spy, intel, economic, etc). No need to invade a country.
Sure, this is sensible, but no one gets to make billions of dollars in profit from the war machine that way. We can't even complain about corporate welfare in this case. After all, we gave them "jobs" to do for their billions.
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So........the 93 World Trade Bombing wasn't a terrorist attack? It really didn't happen? Wow..........
It is surprising how the first World Trade Center attack is seldom discussed.

World Trade Center 1993 bombings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It seems like sometimes partisan politics interferes with folks looking at situations over time. Instead of analyzing history as a continous time line, they tend of look at it in junks of time related to their team being in or out of power.
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Very true. Just like economic upturns when your party is in power should be credited to them, but downturns were simply beyond their control. Both parties play that game just as well.
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Sorry..........I'm like Forrest Gump, "not a smart man"...perhaps you should "learn me".........

I understand Clinton is thought of highly on this Board, heck he even thought of himself as a modern day JFK.........
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Very true. Just like economic upturns when your party is in power should be credited to them, but downturns were simply beyond their control. Both parties play that game just as well.
Not arguing there..........I look at it this way:

Clinton showed little initiative in getting things done. he probably felt is was useless to fight the Republican Congressional majority........basically a bright guy with good intentions that let his private life consume him. His WIFE showed more initiative than he did, which is sad...........
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So........the 93 World Trade Bombing wasn't a terrorist attack? It really didn't happen? Wow..........
Technically, and legally, all embassies are also the soil of the country occupying them. So our embassies in Africa that were bombed in 1998 were also American soil.
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