Don't believe the hype.
The casino loses its edge by 0.1-0.2% at basic-strategy card-counting blackjack with progressive betting. Add in shuffletracking (admittedly a PITA) and the house is at a 0.5% disadvantage. Add in any freebies like clubs or comps and the house is going to lose in the long run.
The casinos don't care about losing these particular edges because BJ is popular enough to draw a big crowd of uninformed players who happily lose on their own schemes. Heck, the casinos even sell basic strategy cards in the gift shops and let players use them at the tables. Just try to double down outside of basic strategy-- most dealers will argue with you on the first attempt.
I suspect that there are unheralded "players" who consistently grind out a living with their card skills. More power to 'em-- it's hard work and I suspect that they could do better in just about any job paying more than minimum wage. There's also the statistical certainty of losing five or six figures into a dealer's winning run before statistics reasserts itself. But the "free drinks" may be too tempting to pass up.
After weeks of reading & practice, I've played Vegas blackjack twice for a total of a couple hours-- losing $95 at a single-deck $10 table and winning $135 at a multiple-deck $5 table. I'm also up several thousand on my Hoyle Casino '99 CD, but I started that with a $5000 stake and $25 bets. It's more entertaining than Windows Solitaire.
I'll go back to Vegas someday but I appear to be too lazy to get around to it. The eye candy & human drama was wonderful but I despise the second-hand smoke, the casino noise, and the chiseling waiters/hotel staff. Then there's the mechanics of closing up the house, arranging kid & pet care, redeye charters, and 3 PM checkin times. It also bothered me that I got a seat whenever I wanted to play but spouse (who'd rather watch) had to stand. If the casinos had given a spouse's seat for free, they'd have doubled our play time. (Maybe they knew what they were doing after all.) Thank goodness Hawaii has no (legalized) gambling!
I think I'd do best on a solo trip with a $10K stake spread out over 20 $500 sessions, each of up to eight hours (or until the stake runs out).
Whoa, waitaminnit, that sounds too much like work! But if any of you are interested in subsidizing a low-budget documentary for the cable channels, let me know...
Sounds just like a classic EMH debate.My understanding is that all of the possible scams that can be used in a casino have been discovered and adjustments have already been made to eliminate those. The house always has the odds in its favor.
The casino loses its edge by 0.1-0.2% at basic-strategy card-counting blackjack with progressive betting. Add in shuffletracking (admittedly a PITA) and the house is at a 0.5% disadvantage. Add in any freebies like clubs or comps and the house is going to lose in the long run.
The casinos don't care about losing these particular edges because BJ is popular enough to draw a big crowd of uninformed players who happily lose on their own schemes. Heck, the casinos even sell basic strategy cards in the gift shops and let players use them at the tables. Just try to double down outside of basic strategy-- most dealers will argue with you on the first attempt.
I suspect that there are unheralded "players" who consistently grind out a living with their card skills. More power to 'em-- it's hard work and I suspect that they could do better in just about any job paying more than minimum wage. There's also the statistical certainty of losing five or six figures into a dealer's winning run before statistics reasserts itself. But the "free drinks" may be too tempting to pass up.
After weeks of reading & practice, I've played Vegas blackjack twice for a total of a couple hours-- losing $95 at a single-deck $10 table and winning $135 at a multiple-deck $5 table. I'm also up several thousand on my Hoyle Casino '99 CD, but I started that with a $5000 stake and $25 bets. It's more entertaining than Windows Solitaire.
I'll go back to Vegas someday but I appear to be too lazy to get around to it. The eye candy & human drama was wonderful but I despise the second-hand smoke, the casino noise, and the chiseling waiters/hotel staff. Then there's the mechanics of closing up the house, arranging kid & pet care, redeye charters, and 3 PM checkin times. It also bothered me that I got a seat whenever I wanted to play but spouse (who'd rather watch) had to stand. If the casinos had given a spouse's seat for free, they'd have doubled our play time. (Maybe they knew what they were doing after all.) Thank goodness Hawaii has no (legalized) gambling!
I think I'd do best on a solo trip with a $10K stake spread out over 20 $500 sessions, each of up to eight hours (or until the stake runs out).
Whoa, waitaminnit, that sounds too much like work! But if any of you are interested in subsidizing a low-budget documentary for the cable channels, let me know...