Ahhh, if people only would try a recumbent for a few rides a lot more people would switch to that kind of bike. Kind of strange at first, but if all you are doing is road riding it is a lot more comfortable. I used to ride nice bikes...then my butt went for some reason (just lost the ability to sit on a seat...tried all kinds..really kind of strange), then my neck went so I could ride for much more than an hour without increasing discomfort, then had a bike wreck in Okinawa that caused my left hand to go numb after riding for 20-30 minutes, now....many many calf/achilles pulls...nowhere near 90, only 53. Al is doing some things I hope to do.....but without the camping bit. I would love to ride the NW and stay in motels after doing 100-200miles a day.