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08-27-2019, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuckanut
I doubt one can go to far wrong with the RAV4, CR-V or Outback. I will also toss in the Forrester for consideration.
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Have you considered the Mazda CX-5? It gets very good reviews.
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08-27-2019, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bamaman
I would be hesitant to buy any Subaru in our region. The closest dealer is 90 minutes away, and he's not a very large operation....
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They are ubiquitous here in New England.
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Where is the land of the Subarus? There are four states where Subaru rules the road. You can probably guess which ones. More Subarus are sold in Washington, Colorado, Maine and Connecticut than any other states. Not just more Subarus, but they are the number one selling car in their borders.
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https://www.torquenews.com/1084/why-...these-4-states
See also https://www.iseecars.com/most-subaru...ate-2016-study
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08-27-2019, 11:31 AM
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The CRV got a new turbocharged engine that has owners finding gas in their oil... its bad.
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08-27-2019, 12:13 PM
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We have two Priuses. My wife drives a Prius gen3, and I drive a Prius plug-in [charged from our household solar power system]. Here in Maine a Prius is near ideal. They do great in the snow, and for crossing frozen river ice.
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08-27-2019, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by REWahoo
Have you considered the Mazda CX-5? It gets very good reviews.
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I'll take a look at it later today. Thanks.
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08-27-2019, 01:11 PM
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Of the OP's original listing, the RAV4...but only the hybrid.
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08-27-2019, 01:15 PM
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If I throw a stone it will hit a couple of Subies. Of course it's probably going to bounce off a Wrangler or two.
OP if you're really concerned about traction the Subaru beats the others on your list for that category. Most of the other SUVs are pretty limited in heavyweight traction delivery. I pulled out several last year, snowpacked roads and a little downhill, they sit and spin both axels.
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08-27-2019, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Midpack
FWIW, a good friend of mine has a CR-V daily driver and loves it. However, he installed a makeshift drivers side armrest a little higher up because he too was very uncomfortable with the location of the factory armrest. He’s kinda lazy, so for him to go to the effort, the factory armrest had to be pretty awful...
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Thanks. I've thought about that too except DW is primary driver & she detests armrests in general. Nonetheless, outside that feature it's fantastic.
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08-27-2019, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rayinpenn
The CRV got a new turbocharged engine that has owners finding gas in their oil... its bad.
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Is this still happening 2+ years later? It did happen on a quite low % of CR-V's in our coldest winters states only on 2017's but I thought was corrected/repaired/replaced. No?
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08-28-2019, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ncbill
Of the OP's original listing, the RAV4...but only the hybrid.
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+1, test drove one awhile back and was duly impressed. They seem to go off the lot as soon as the arrive at the dealer. Good reviews all around on the hybrid model.
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08-28-2019, 07:48 AM
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DW had a 2005 C-RV she ran the wheels off of but I ruled out the 2019 C-RV based on what I'd read about the engine oil issue. Didn't want to deal with that, and frankly a software patch to "fix" that problem seemed iffy at best to me.
We both still love DW's new Forester. I'm of average height but have size 14 feet and the Forester accommodates me very well. I still have some room to put the seat back even further if I were taller.
Around here the Forester seems to be quite popular with the silver-haired set for whatever reason.
YMMV (pun intended)
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08-28-2019, 07:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MRG
If I throw a stone it will hit a couple of Subies. Of course it's probably going to bounce off a Wrangler or two.
OP if you're really concerned about traction the Subaru beats the others on your list for that category. Most of the other SUVs are pretty limited in heavyweight traction delivery. I pulled out several last year, snowpacked roads and a little downhill, they sit and spin both axels.
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That's a problem with the tires, not the vehicle itself. Many of the tires car factories put on mainstream cars and trucks are pretty weak in terms of general performance. They like to minimize rolling resistance to boost economy ratings -- but rolling resistance and traction go hand in hand.
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08-28-2019, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dash man
We bought an Outback in 2017 and love it.
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+1 We chose the Outback over the Forester because of the longer wheelbase. The Outback is a great road car and the seats are very comfortable. I rode with a friend on a ~2 1/2 hour trip in his Audi Q5 on Friday and the seats were very uncomfortable... not something that I would have expected from that class of car.
FWIW, we have ordered our last two vehicles... we have been able to get the car just as we wanted it. The cars on dealer's lots often have trim levels and/or options that are not good values for us.
Finally, I really like the paddle shifters on the Outback. Almost 50k miles and all we have done so far is oil changes, cabin and engine air filter changes, tire rotations and replaced the tires.
We get just a tad under 30 mpg in mixed driving with the 4 cylinder. I was apprehensive about the normally aspirated 4-cyl after having a 4-cyl turbo... it isn't any speed rocket but it does have enough acceleration to get out of its own way and has been fine in terms of driving.... rarely seems underpowered.
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08-28-2019, 08:25 AM
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One thing to keep in mind when comparing the various brands is that Subaru comes with AWD standard. It is optional for the Honda (+$1400) and the Toyota (+$1300).
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08-28-2019, 08:29 AM
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I don't own a CRV, but did have it on my list to consider. Let me just say do your homework. Seems there is a persistent issue with battery dieing on that vehicle after sitting for several days. Read user reviews, has been there and is still mentioned in recent reviews as an issue. I've crossed it off my list, too many other options to deal with this type of issue. I can't imagine going on a flight or cruise and worrying if my car would start when I got back.
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08-28-2019, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GalaxyBoy
DW had a 2005 C-RV she ran the wheels off of but I ruled out the 2019 C-RV based on what I'd read about the engine oil issue. Didn't want to deal with that, and frankly a software patch to "fix" that problem seemed iffy at best to me.
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The CR-V oil/gas problem was only on the Turbo engine, IIRC. Correct?
If I purchased a CR-V it would be the regular four, not the Turbo. However, how Honda handled the problem concerns me. My gut impressions is that they were not up-front and tried to shmooze there way through it.
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08-28-2019, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuckanut
The CR-V oil/gas problem was only on the Turbo engine, IIRC. Correct?
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I believe so. Only the base model is non-turbo.
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08-29-2019, 12:59 PM
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The more I look into this the more I think my choice will be a RAV4 or the Outback. Maybe a Forester.
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08-29-2019, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuckanut
The more I look into this the more I think my choice will be a RAV4 or the Outback. Maybe a Forester.
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Honestly I don't see how you could go wrong with any of these three! Maybe it's time to start going on test drives.
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08-29-2019, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pb4uski
Finally, I really like the paddle shifters on the Outback.
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If you have a manual trans, no need to read further.
If you have an auto trans I have to ask, and I drive an Outback myself. Mine has a CVT transmission (that’s all they’ve used since 2008) so there are no gears and I dismissed the paddle shifters as a marketing gimmick. When I asked the dealer, he seemed to agree it was a gimmick. I’ve accidentally hit a paddle and “shifted” a couple times but I couldn’t tell anything different and it goes back to its own CVT routine shortly thereafter anyway. What am I missing?
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