People lets make Jetblue go away

[dumpster56]

Yea they royally screwed up.

They are all smoke and mirrors, yes you stockholders will get hosed.

Anyway an airline that treats its passengers as badly as they are EVEN TODAY SUNDAY 4 days after the storm does not deserve to exist.

Stop flying JETBLUE! There are alternatives, Other airlines, a train a car!!

 

[Cut-Throat]

Really? - You have not seen bad service, until you fly Northworst!

 

[samclem]

Is this example of bad judgement the biggest thing we've got to get our panties in a knot about? Every major carrier has horror stories just as bad. Put this in perspective: Nobody was killed. There was no evil plot. It was just incompetence/bad judgement.

Air travel today is not luxurious--it is a cattle drive. Go visit some of the terminals--food waste sitting around for hours, seats packed in (and not enough of them), folks waiting in line out the door to use the fetid restrooms. All the ambiance of a bus terminal downtown. The industry functions right on the razor's edge cost-wise.

In this environment, I'm not surprised that "stuff happens."

 

[dumpster56]

Yes just keep on flying.

remember after 9/11 the government bailed these guys out to the tune of almost 90BILLION!!

look rebuild the american railroads high speed train service. think of the tax dollars that would flow into the government by putting american back to work building a great new system.

No we throw bad money and americans the SHEEPLE follow and continue to fly.

Dumb.

 

[samclem]

Baaa! Baaa!




Come to think of it, I've seen sheep on traincars, but I've never seen one on a plane!

 

[JohnEyles]

In this environment, I'm not surprised that "stuff happens."

Yes. But ... it would be cool if they were forced out of business. Might be a
badly needed wake-up call for the airlines and ultimately make things better.

 

[dumpster56]

Yes. But ... it would be cool if they were forced out of business. Might be a
badly needed wake-up call for the airlines and ultimately make things better.

These guys were nothing but smoke and mirrors, sure they gave you something to eat, and a larger seat BUT they are cutting costs like the rest of the industry and then you have people who cannot make good decisions.

Look I could have told you that a heavy sleet and freezing rainstorm in NYC temps were 21 degrees most of the day that these planes were NOT getting off the ground. They NEVER should have pushed from the gates!

I have to question the powers that were running the system. Pretty dumb .

Yes the american public can vote and put these people out of business. Just do not fly them. Is that so hard??

 

[Zoocat]

I would not boycott JetBlue for that transgression. The same has occurred on other airlines.
What I would like to see is a boycott of United Airlines for what they did to the employees' pension funds during the bankruptcy and restructuring.

 

[dumpster56]

I would not boycott JetBlue for that transgression. The same has occurred on other airlines.
What I would like to see is a boycott of United Airlines for what they did to the employees' pension funds during the bankruptcy and restructuring.

I stopped flying on all american airlines. we will take a a European airline overseas this summer.

 

[Brat]

What happened here revealed a serious weakness in JetBlue's operations division. It wasn't limited to just one airport. It may be that they have been trying to do too much with too little for a while, it took an event like this to reveal it.

At the corporate level heads should roll - no nice severance packages - once they have had a chance to get enough sleep to make thoughtful decisions, and commitments met to travelers impacted.

 

[dumpster56]

What happened here revealed a serious weakness in JetBlue's operations division. It wasn't limited to just one airport. It may be that they have been trying to do too much with too little for a while, it took an event like this to reveal it.

At the corporate level heads should roll - no nice severance packages - once they have had a chance to get enough sleep to make thoughtful decisions, and commitments met to travelers impacted.

But the Wall Street Journal gave them big time PROPS last week and the stock went UP!!!!!!

Something smells rotten!

 

[Rich_by_the_Bay]

I really feel for you, Newguy. It's like being kidnapped and held against your will.

Unfortunately, as others say, it is symptomatic of the whole industry - no airline is immune. Hope that all of them learn from this disaster and that Jetblue is held accountable big time.

Have the law suits started yet?

 

[Brat]

Have the law suits started yet?

Too early to file. Many courts are closed Monday.

Some may say that we are a law suit happy culture. I think there are ways to address specious law suits. For the rest, let us remind ourselves that a law suit is more civilized than physical retribution. Not cheaper, safer.

 

[BunsGettingFirm]

JetBlue was making money from 1999-2003. It never got a bail out dime from the government because they didnt' need it.

I'd have to look at the story though because it will change my presentation in a couple of days. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[tjon72]

As a retired UAL er, am with you on that !..........tom

 

[farmerEd]

Look I could have told you that a heavy sleet and freezing rainstorm in NYC temps were 21 degrees most of the day that these planes were NOT getting off the ground. They NEVER should have pushed from the gates!

A colossal series of bad decisions to be sure...and they should be held accountable. On the other hand, it is NOT true that they could have known the planes would not have flown that day...I boarded a Delta plane at 9AM that very same day and our plane took off just 1 hour late, from an airport not very far from NYC...and now I am happily sitting in the Bahamas watching the sunrise while drinking coffee....I am very glad my plane got pushed away from the gate.

If they prematurely canceled flights "just in case", they would have just as any angry people than if they didn't.

I think if I was stuck on a plane for 9 hours on the tarmac I'd call 911 and report that I was being held hostage, or else rush the emergency exit and take my chances in court...

A 2 hour maximum law should be passed and everyone should be given the option to leave every hour or so after that...I wouldn't mind seeing a law put in place to ensure this - with stiff penalties.

 

[dumpster56]

Sitting here 18 degrees in North Carolina go figure drinking hot chocolate thinking should I substitute teach today?? I might it still a crappy fishing day here, and they have to open the schools today for a makeup of a snowday two weeks ago.

By the way enjoy your time down there!

 

[Deetso]

I had almost the exact opposite reaction to this fiasco.

Soon Jet Blue will probably try to win back some customers- thats means cheaper tickets and other assorted perks. I plan on flying somewhere fun- for cheap.

Thank you to all those people claiming you will never fly with them again. Now Jet Blue will want my business just a little more.

 

[Leonidas]

Soon Jet Blue will probably try to win back some customers- thats means cheaper tickets and other assorted perks. I plan on flying somewhere fun- for cheap.

Thank you to all those people claiming you will never fly with them again. Now Jet Blue will want my business just a little more.

Ssshhhhhhhh! Keep it quiet.

ahem....Newguy, I'm with you bud - let's spread the word - Boycott Jet Blue. And if even if they come crawling on their knees with great deals trying beg forgiveness we say NO!

 

[Nords]

I plan on flying somewhere fun- for cheap.

At those prices and considering their recent performance record, what do you think JetBlue will achieve to impress you?

Eh, never mind, I'm only venting. My spouse just spent 15 minutes on the phone with "Bob" (in Bangalore) trying to change the return date on a govt airfare. Phew.

 

[Brat]

Interesting article in Online Wall Street Journal about the various factors that cause these delays: http://tinyurl.com/2m6ueu

 

[dumpster56]

But since 9/11 all american flyers must now understand causing any problem on a flight even after sitting on a runway for 10 hours can get you 20 years in a federal jail.

There seems to be no common sense here. 11 hours on a plane in an ice storm is just stupid.

 

[samclem]

It has never been okay (pre or post 9/11) to "cause a problem" on a plane, whether in flight or on the ground. People who "cause problems" have always been arrested.

BTW, the folks in Gander, Newfoundland have figured this out, and have turned it into a nice business. Gander happens to be the last good North American airport along the route for many US flights headed for Europe, and the first convenient landfall for European flights headed for the US. So, it's a good place to land if there's an unruly passenger aboard (usually somebody who is drunk, mentally disturbed, abusive to the point of threatening violence, actually violent, etc). The folks at Gander have let the airlines know these arrivals are welcome, and they have some well-trained folks that rapidly board the aircraft and whisk the probem passenger away (under arrest). It's a winner for Gander--they usually get to sell the airline a lot of fuel (fuel's not cheap there) and sell the airline a bunch of inflight meals. If the crew will run out of duty day, then all those passengers will stay in hotels in Gander, courtesy of the airline. That's a lot of money into the coffers of the good folks of Gander.

Good for them. Folks who "cause a problem" on airplanes help out our northern neighbors.

 

[dumpster56]

It has never been okay (pre or post 9/11) to "cause a problem" on a plane, whether in flight or on the ground. People who "cause problems" have always been arrested.

BTW, the folks in Gander, Newfoundland have figured this out, and have turned it into a nice business. Gander happens to be the last good North American airport along the route for many US flights headed for Europe, and the first convenient landfall for European flights headed for the US. So, it's a good place to land if there's an unruly passenger aboard (usually somebody who is drunk, mentally disturbed, abusive to the point of threatening violence, actually violent, etc). The folks at Gander have let the airlines know these arrivals are welcome, and they have some well-trained folks that rapidly board the aircraft and whisk the probem passenger away (under arrest). It's a winner for Gander--they usually get to sell the airline a lot of fuel (fuel's not cheap there) and sell the airline a bunch of inflight meals. If the crew will run out of duty day, then all those passengers will stay in hotels in Gander, courtesy of the airline. That's a lot of money into the coffers of the good folks of Gander.

Good for them. Folks who "cause a problem" on airplanes help out our northern neighbors.

Bottom line if I was stuck on that plane after 11 hours I probably would have jumped off the plane when they opened the doors to get fresh air into the tube.

I would have then been arrested and charged like a terrorist.

That is well %$&( up!

Picture everyone rising up on a plane after 11 hours and saying we want off!

But nope the sheeple sit and sit and sit then complain and say how terrible it was.

Flying today is terrible.

 

[Nords]

Good for them. Folks who "cause a problem" on airplanes help out our northern neighbors.

IIRC they did a booming business on 9/11-- even opening up local schools & other shelters.