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11-28-2020, 07:48 AM
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#141
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Originally Posted by Almost There 2021
The only news you can count on is the weather. So far no agendas here even if they are wrong.....
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If only that were true.
Plenty of commentary and speculation added to every weather event as to the "cause" of it.
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11-28-2020, 07:52 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Originally Posted by JoeWras
Plenty of commentary and speculation added to every weather event as to the "cause" of it.
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That's not weather...that's agitprop. 
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11-28-2020, 10:11 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
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Pay for the WSJ and the local (FL) Gannett rag during the winter (which gets worse all the time). Everything else I try to sneak into.
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11-28-2020, 11:57 AM
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#144
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Location: Rio Grande Valley
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Originally Posted by BeachOrCity
Just FYI, it (Apple News+) does not have the WaPo.
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It does carry a large number of WaPo articles.
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11-28-2020, 12:17 PM
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#145
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Northern Virginia
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Originally Posted by Almost There 2021
The only news you can count on is the weather. So far no agendas here even if they are wrong.....
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Oh, weather DOES have an agenda. Not sure how you missed that.
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11-28-2020, 12:25 PM
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#146
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Administrator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeWras
If only that were true.
Plenty of commentary and speculation added to every weather event as to the "cause" of it.
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Weather always has and always will have a single cause -- differential heating, both horizontally and vertically.
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11-28-2020, 12:50 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
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We use a news aggregator for most of it. Paid subscription.
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I hope I haven't missed it in the subsequent discussions, but could you say a little more about the details of that service? Or is this just the Apple News that you mention you also have?
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Why would you pay $20/month for WSJ when you can subscribe to Apple News and get just about every publication in existence, including WSJ, for $10/month?
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As others also have mentioned, it seems the NYT is not in Apple News anymore, various other news sources in it offer only a subset of their full content; and it doesn't run on a PC. I am reluctant to enter the Mac world just for that.
Overall I don't mind paying for subscriptions, and ultimately this is what is needed to keep newspapers alive. The problem is that there are just so many news sources, and including the two international ones we are already paying for, there is just too much "subscription creep", including even just the trouble of keeping payment methods current should you switch your credit card, heaven forbid.
So to have a simple, wide ranging aggregator service seems really appealing to me. Just for the advantage of this "KISS" approach, I wouldn't even mind paying a bit more.
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11-28-2020, 02:07 PM
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#148
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Apple News Plus is an aggregator. It usually offers a one month free trial period, but has a Black Friday / Cyber Monday offer for a free 3 month trial. I think I’ll sign up.
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11-28-2020, 04:16 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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I just subscribed to the local big city paper - and it was because of this thread. So ER.org just made a tiny contribution to the survival of print journalism.
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11-28-2020, 04:25 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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11-28-2020, 05:25 PM
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#151
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Do not pay for news. Too many versions of the the same stuff.
ER org provides enough 
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11-29-2020, 07:38 AM
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Not sure what the arrangement is, but there are some WaPo articles all the time. Today:
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11-29-2020, 10:00 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
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I have been receiving unsolicited Apple News headlines on my Apple devices for some time. Looked at some of their stories a couple of times. It became quite clear that the Apple News aggregate was politically slanted which should not surprise anyone. I have had offers in the past couple years to receive the WAPO for free and chose not to. If I want to read the news, I want just the news and not attempts at mind control through slanted and censored propaganda. No thank you!
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11-29-2020, 12:46 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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Location: Ventura County
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Man
I have been receiving unsolicited Apple News headlines on my Apple devices for some time. Looked at some of their stories a couple of times. It became quite clear that the Apple News aggregate was politically slanted which should not surprise anyone. I have had offers in the past couple years to receive the WAPO for free and chose not to. If I want to read the news, I want just the news and not attempts at mind control through slanted and censored propaganda. No thank you!
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All papers have editors and there's always going to be some editorial bias. This shows most clearly in editorials and commentary which can be ignored. That said, better newspapers on both the left and right fact check their articles and will be called out by their competitors if they publish outright falsehoods. Just to be non-partisan (or bipartisan, I guess) I would put both the Wall Street Journal and New York Times into this category. Their editors may choose which stories to promote, but neither prints outright falsehoods to the best of my knowledge. Both also print corrections when they find they've made an error. This willingness to admit error and print corrections is, I believe, a key measure of reputability. When was the last time you saw a truly biased 'news' source on either the right or left admit they were wrong?
You can choose to read reputable papers from either the left or right (or, better yet, both) but to not read newspapers at all because of the bias of their editors makes one vulnerable to far more biased and less reliable 'curated' news feeds.
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11-29-2020, 01:10 PM
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#155
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I read the WSJ 6x/week because my neighbor here at our CCRC drops it off at my door daily when he finishes with it. I once offered to split the cost with him, but he would have none of that.
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11-29-2020, 04:53 PM
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Location: Rio Grande Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Man
I have been receiving unsolicited Apple News headlines on my Apple devices for some time. Looked at some of their stories a couple of times. It became quite clear that the Apple News aggregate was politically slanted which should not surprise anyone. I have had offers in the past couple years to receive the WAPO for free and chose not to. If I want to read the news, I want just the news and not attempts at mind control through slanted and censored propaganda. No thank you!
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You can select your preferred news sources with Apple News Plus and delete others - i.e. fully customize it. You are not limited to a fixed feed predetermined by someone else.
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11-29-2020, 06:50 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
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Location: Central
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Originally Posted by audreyh1
You can select your preferred news sources with Apple News Plus and delete others - i.e. fully customize it. You are not limited to a fixed feed predetermined by someone else.
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Thanks for the information! That makes it much more attractive!
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11-30-2020, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocket Man
Thanks for the information! That makes it much more attractive!
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What I really like is that you can pick specific topics of interest - say Archaeology for instance - and Apple News will feed them to you. You can also add a bunch of topics to your sidebar to see those articles. Which is how I use it most of the time. I don't generally look at their overall feed.
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11-30-2020, 08:00 AM
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Confused about dryer sheets
Join Date: Sep 2018
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We pay
Subscribe to local paper (Minneapolis Star Tribune) Community paper and WSJ. rationale?? You get what you don't pay for.
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12-01-2020, 07:55 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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Location: Pasadena CA
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Subscription to The Economist for 40+ years, local papers too.
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