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Old 03-01-2009, 03:47 PM   #41
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The other day I went for a colonoscopy, I'm hooked up to tubes, oxygen, all IV's the works, and then a anesthesiologists who looked confused and like he was just thrown out of bed starts questioning me about my insurance, I growled at him and told him we'll work it out when I'm more comfortable. The Gastro was good, the anestesiologist was an a--hole.



Maybe the anasthesiologist had heard how you were handling your mom's medical bills and thought he should get payment in advance.

Karma dude.
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:57 PM   #42
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There's probably a "jug" file in the hospital finance department under "bad debts".
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Old 03-02-2009, 03:07 AM   #43
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There's probably a "jug" file in the hospital finance department under "bad debts".
In Vegas there are Jug files all over the place. My face is posted up in all the billing departments with a line down the middle with other deadbeats, I'm famous.

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Having just read all these posts with much interest, I just felt I had to get in my two cents worth. Jug, I feel for all the problems you have had with your family members and I'm sure it's taking a toll on you physically and mentally. It must be tough to deal with all that. I've found over the years that its better to get to the bottom of the issue and get it solved rather than let it fester. You've got too much anger to keep dealing in this fashion. You've got to live with yourself.

Secondly, the news lately relative to health care in general is that the system is corrupt. Medicare is getting bilked by many providers. It's only going to get worse as we move toward universal care. I for one have dealt with numerous medical bills (charges) over the last several years and have found many quirks. For one, hospitals charge like automotive repair shops. If an actual estimate to fix your car is $1000 but the insurance repair book calls for $1500, that's what they bill. Same with hospitals and Medicare. I had open heart surgery and you wouldn't believe the detail billing from the hospital. It's like they open us the book to the page "OPEN Heart Surgery" and there is the list of everything they should bill for, whether you received it or not. I'm not going to fight the system because my insurance will cover most charges (that's another problem), I'm just saying the method of billing in the health care system is very suspect. If we are to go to a universal system and be able to afford it, the government will have to clean up the billing system.

Enjoyed reading all the posts. All kind of thoughts out there and that's what makes this forum so interesting. You learn something new every day.
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Having just read all these posts with much interest, I just felt I had to get in my two cents worth. Jug, I feel for all the problems you have had with your family members and I'm sure it's taking a toll on you physically and mentally. It must be tough to deal with all that. I've found over the years that its better to get to the bottom of the issue and get it solved rather than let it fester. You've got too much anger to keep dealing in this fashion. You've got to live with yourself.

Secondly, the news lately relative to health care in general is that the system is corrupt. Medicare is getting bilked by many providers. It's only going to get worse as we move toward universal care. I for one have dealt with numerous medical bills (charges) over the last several years and have found many quirks. For one, hospitals charge like automotive repair shops. If an actual estimate to fix your car is $1000 but the insurance repair book calls for $1500, that's what they bill. Same with hospitals and Medicare. I had open heart surgery and you wouldn't believe the detail billing from the hospital. It's like they open us the book to the page "OPEN Heart Surgery" and there is the list of everything they should bill for, whether you received it or not. I'm not going to fight the system because my insurance will cover most charges (that's another problem), I'm just saying the method of billing in the health care system is very suspect. If we are to go to a universal system and be able to afford it, the government will have to clean up the billing system.
Thanks for the good thoughts. The problem is not that I don't want to pay, originally I was hit with many bills due to mom's year long deal with mental hospitals that was unexpected. She landed in Vegas with my father in a vegatative state.

I had no idea what medicare does or doesn't do, but I'm becoming an expert, I let all the bills linger, since to deal with them was a shock.

When dealing with this big bill, I did contact, set up a payment plan, and just paid but found out they weren't posting it, got into an arguement with them and just said "f--k it!

Many on this board held the high and mighty state of righteousness, which to me is a bunch of bull, especially in this environment, and took to critique. I can take a joke, but some were downright freakin mean. Some put me on Iggy, that is something little girls used to do when I was a kid. Some male who acts more like a little girl even said "I'm putting you on Iggy", well boo hoo. Texas got a new girlfriend.

In any case, one has to walk in one's shoes to appreciate what is going on on the ground. Yes I am angry, angry that the system is screwed up, angry that my father put my mom's mental health issue, that he created through his bullying in my hands.

None of us are angels, especially those that are righteous and high. And no I don't like lawyers, some are good, but most of them have ruined this country in the name of justice. Bunch of self serving egoists who take simple problems and spin them way out of their reality.

And those that care that I like Mexicans, they are just a bunch of bigots, plain and simple. Bigots have no place on the web, more like in hell.

Anger sure as hell beats sitting there like a deer in the headlights when you are being beaten down by a disfunctional system. And yes there are different charges by hospitals, the insurers pay discounted rates, but the unisured get hit with highly inflated rates, no wonder people go bankrupt. Probably though up by some sleazeball lawyer or accountant.

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