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Old 11-05-2020, 10:36 PM   #101
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I a slow learner for sure, but I did sign up with a local teacher and lessons start this saturday. It is still a challenge to quickly perform a chord without some buzzing/muting. I also have a hard time repeating/memorizing a scale without going very slowly and checking the scale's diagram.
You have to develop calluses on you fingers and you will only do that by practicing regularly for a couple of weeks. Pick a favorite artist. Start with simple songs from that artist. It's easier to learn a song you are familiar with and that you want to play. When I started playing guitar in the early 70's, I listened to guitarists such as Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, Peter Frampton, Steve Howe, Santana, and Joe Satriani. Learn to play rhythm guitar first with open chords and then bar chords throughout the fretboard. After you develop calluses, learn your scales. Learn the major scale and then blues, natural minor, pentatonic, and dorian mode scales.
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I a slow learner for sure, but I did sign up with a local teacher and lessons start this saturday. It is still a challenge to quickly perform a chord without some buzzing/muting. I also have a hard time repeating/memorizing a scale without going very slowly and checking the scale's diagram.
That fantastic! Eventually I would like to take lessons.

I've learned that slowing down a lot really helps at getting the chords to sound good (most of the time) same with scales- I start super slow making sure to get them correct and also play them forward and backward, up, down. This has really helped me to remember different sets of scales and definitely builds the muscle memory in my hands! It 's amazing how much improvement you will see over time!
Keep strumming, picking, plucking and having fun!!
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I a slow learner for sure, but I did sign up with a local teacher and lessons start this saturday. It is still a challenge to quickly perform a chord without some buzzing/muting. I also have a hard time repeating/memorizing a scale without going very slowly and checking the scale's diagram.
Yes, the "jump" from one chord to another is tough. Developing finger independence on both hands will come in time. There's usually a way to plant an anchor finger first, and that helps guide the others into place to get the next chord without "tripping."

Going slow without mistakes is the correct way. It sounds like you have success, and that is great to hear.
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I have found one of the simplest songs to play (and sing). I'm usually a three chords and a bridge kinda guy, but 2 chords and no bridge is even better. And the two chords only require 2 fingers and 1 finger. A little strumming practice and I'll be a campfire hero!

One other crucial thing that you will discover, if you didn't know it before, while practicing guitar and learning to play some tunes, and is song structure.

Song structure comes in all sizes. Many folk songs (see some Bob Dylan songs) are "simply" AAA structure: where a chord progression is repeated (no chorus, no bridge).

Many popular songs are: verse x2, chorus; bridge; verse, chorus, coda--or variations of this.

I find it fun to learn song structure as I continue to play guitar. And don't get me started on key changes, such as "Surfer Girl" by Brian Wilson:

(Beach Boys): Intro: D F#m Bm F#m G Em A; Verse: D Bm G A D D7 G Gm, D Bm G A D Bm G A; Verse 2: D Bm G A D D7 G Gm D Bm G A D G D D7; We could ride: G A D Bm, G A D D7,
G A D Bm E (key change)... A Bflat (Bf) D# Cm G# A# D# D#7 G# G#m, D# Cm G# A# & repeat.


Little surfer, little one, Made my heart come all undone
Do you love me, do you Surfer Girl, Surfer Girl, my little surfer girl
2. I have watched you on the shore, Standing by the ocean's roar
Do you love me, do you, Surfer Girl, Surfer Girl, Surfer Girl...
We could ride the surf together, While our love would grow, In my Woody I would take you everywhere I go
(Key change): So I say from me to you, I will make your dreams come true... Do you love me, do you, surfer...girl, Surfer Girl, my little surfer girl, Little One, ahhh, little one, ahh..
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That fantastic! Eventually I would like to take lessons.

I've learned that slowing down a lot really helps at getting the chords to sound good (most of the time) same with scales- I start super slow making sure to get them correct and also play them forward and backward, up, down. This has really helped me to remember different sets of scales and definitely builds the muscle memory in my hands! It 's amazing how much improvement you will see over time!
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Yes, the "jump" from one chord to another is tough. Developing finger independence on both hands will come in time. There's usually a way to plant an anchor finger first, and that helps guide the others into place to get the next chord without "tripping."

Going slow without mistakes is the correct way. It sounds like you have success, and that is great to hear.
The thing that is tough as a beginner is getting over the thinking, will I ever get better
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The thing that is tough as a beginner is getting over the thinking, will I ever get better
Sorry to break it to you...but you'll always think like that.
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The thing that is tough as a beginner is getting over the thinking, will I ever get better
You will! Just continue to practice!
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Sorry to break it to you...but you'll always think like that.
Ahem. Not me. Long ago I concluded, no, I won't be getting any better so stop thinking about it.
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Sorry to break it to you...but you'll always think like that.
That is most certainly true some things, but not for everything. Haven't you ever tried something the first time and said to yourself, I'm really good at this?
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That is most certainly true some things, but not for everything. Haven't you ever tried something the first time and said to yourself, I'm really good at this?
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Hey DFW I came across this site earlier today no sign up required and a ton of great information and exercises on scales!!

https://www.guitarscale.org
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Hey DFW I came across this site earlier today no sign up required and a ton of great information and exercises on scales!!

https://www.guitarscale.org
Thanks! Very comprehensive scale info, although it would have been nice if it also showed which fingers to use.
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And here's a video by Robert Fripp (man! I was once such a King Crimson fan) about the importance of praticing the guitar:
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Thanks! Very comprehensive scale info, although it would have been nice if it also showed which fingers to use.
The Segovia Scales show that aspect.
https://douglasniedt.com/classicalguitarscales.html

The software Tux Guitar would also be useful. You could see scales in tablature, score and fretboard views.
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How's it going with the guitar learning?

I wanted to update this great guitar-teaching thread with something new I think I've learned. That is, old guitar strings ain't necessarily bad. It's a common suggestion that you replace your strings often. I dunno whether that's from session guitar players or ? But that's been the usual thinking.

I last replaced my acoustic guitar strings Oct. 2019. They still sound fine to my ears. That got me to thinking: why frequently replace the strings if they still sound fine? They don't replace piano strings. I recognize that fresh strings usually have a crisper/brighter sound. (I'll replace all 6 when one eventually breaks.)
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If you keep at it you will definitely get better!
Because you will see, learn and understand "patterns." As is true with other aspects of life.
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How's it going with the guitar learning?

I wanted to update this great guitar-teaching thread with something new I think I've learned. That is, old guitar strings ain't necessarily bad. It's a common suggestion that you replace your strings often. I dunno whether that's from session guitar players or ? But that's been the usual thinking.

I last replaced my acoustic guitar strings Oct. 2019. They still sound fine to my ears. That got me to thinking: why frequently replace the strings if they still sound fine? They don't replace piano strings. I recognize that fresh strings usually have a crisper/brighter sound. (I'll replace all 6 when one eventually breaks.)
Guitar strings are subject to skin oils, dirt, dead skin, etc. Piano strings are not. If you never play the guitar, play it rarely or wash your hands regularly before playing, there really is no need to change the strings. They can also be cleaned with a mild wipe as well.
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