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07-13-2019, 10:16 AM
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07-13-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by travelover
I'd use Vice-Grips if I could compress the fiberglass hump enough to lock onto the screw head. Otherwise, I'd try an electric impact gun, pressing really hard as it hammers. Last ditch, I'd drill the heads off, then use Vice -Grips on the shank.
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That's better than the angle grinder (less messy and less noisy and less dangerous). Much easier than trying to re-slot the screws or use an impact driver on a rusty screw that probably would crumble.
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I'm not seeing two. Screen shot?
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07-13-2019, 11:50 AM
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For similar problems I've had very good success with soaking them in Liquid Wrench.
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07-13-2019, 12:12 PM
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Cold chisel and a firm strike will do it. Wear safety glasses.
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07-13-2019, 12:50 PM
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Cold chisel and a firm strike will do it. Wear safety glasses.
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Overkill. IMHO. 
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07-13-2019, 01:01 PM
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Best tool I ever bought myself was this cordless multi-tool;
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Several different types of blades available for different applications.
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07-13-2019, 01:02 PM
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This thread is ridiculous because the screws will just come right out because they are screwed into wood which doesn't rust. The fiberglass ain't holding them in because it doesn't rust either. Any old screwdriver will get the screws out. if the heads happen to break off then once the panel is removed vice grips can probably be used to unscrew the shaft.
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07-13-2019, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LOL!
This thread is ridiculous because the screws will just come right out because they are screwed into wood which doesn't rust. The fiberglass ain't holding them in because it doesn't rust either. Any old screwdriver will get the screws out. if the heads happen to break off then once the panel is removed vice grips can probably be used to unscrew the shaft.
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Perhaps we should have a poll on "how many early-retirement.org members does it take to remove a stuck screw".
Anyway, just to add to the confusion my suggestion is Vampliers. The link is to the search on Amazon because there are many different types. You can get the whole collection for only $128!
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=vampliers...nb_sb_ss_i_3_8
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07-13-2019, 01:54 PM
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I like the Vampliers! They even have a locking pair. I'm going to put a camelcamelcamel watch on them and get me a pair. Maybe a prime day deal.
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07-13-2019, 03:16 PM
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First try with the impact screwdriver didn't work. I'll play with it some more.
I'll use this next, thanks for the idea.
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07-13-2019, 07:39 PM
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I like the Vampliers! They even have a locking pair. I'm going to put a camelcamelcamel watch on them and get me a pair. Maybe a prime day deal.
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But what about when your issue involves garlic or crucifixes? The vampliers will be useless. 
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07-13-2019, 08:21 PM
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First try with the impact screwdriver didn't work. I'll play with it some more.
I'll use this next, thanks for the idea.
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Those impact type screwdrivers don't work too well on something that is flexible, like a wood structure. Back in the day, they were invaluable in working on motorcycles.
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07-13-2019, 11:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LOL!
This thread is ridiculous because the screws will just come right out because they are screwed into wood which doesn't rust. The fiberglass ain't holding them in because it doesn't rust either. Any old screwdriver will get the screws out. if the heads happen to break off then once the panel is removed vice grips can probably be used to unscrew the shaft.
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usually it is the screw-head that is the problem , some become very brittle but don't always fail so completely the fibre-glass is simple to remove
once the fibre-glass is removed vice-grips ( locking pliers ) will work nicely
arguably drilling a hole BIGGER than the screws ( into the fibre-glass ) using a hole-saw , would work also but might reduce the ability of the fibre-glass to be reused ,
as i understand it reusing the fibre-glass is an important goal
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07-14-2019, 04:02 PM
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Not to thread highjack, but has anyone figured out how to unscrew a pregnant woman?
Asking for a friend.....
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07-14-2019, 09:26 PM
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arguably drilling a hole BIGGER than the screws ( into the fibre-glass ) using a hole-saw , would work also but might reduce the ability of the fibre-glass to be reused ,
as i understand it reusing the fibre-glass is an important goal
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That's why God gave us washers.
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07-14-2019, 09:36 PM
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yes but the sheeting pictured is corrugated ( rippled ) meaning there is a practical limit to the washer size especially if weather resistance is a priority
if used in a green-house/hot-house a little leakage might even be a bonus
( some of those neoprene washers don't last that long , compared to the sheeting )
and of course those lead-headed nails of old are very much out of fashion ( at least in Australia )
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07-14-2019, 10:09 PM
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07-14-2019, 11:16 PM
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Not to thread highjack, but has anyone figured out how to unscrew a pregnant woman?
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They don't make an EZ-Out for that application.
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07-15-2019, 09:49 AM
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I'm with the earlier posts to push the panel down a bit, grab the head of the screw with a vice grips (tightly - the screw should crunch some, making it kind of square-ish, so it won't slip when turned), and unscrew it, or maybe just break it off, whichever is easiest.
I really think that will be far easier, and probably less damage to the panel than a saw or drill. Try using a flat nail-pulling bar to flatten the panel down, or maybe a small metal sheet with a hole drilled into it a bit larger than the screw head? Put some weight on that to provide a little space for the vice-grips to grab.
edit/add: I went back and looked at the first pics - OK, if you can get between the "wiggle board" and the 2x4 (away from the panel) with a reciprocating saw, that should work too. But I'd use a sawz-all style, those little reciprocating saws are for more light duty work, I think. I have that same "plunge style" saws, I haven't used it much, it is good for some things, but I don't think it is a match for a sawz-all style for rough work like this.
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07-15-2019, 10:42 AM
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