Twitter accepts Elon Musk's buyout deal

[Montecfo]

^^^During the election, Twitter famously censored news reports damaging to one party.

Then as now those reports were credible (even the NYTimes and Washington Post agree). Even Jack Dorsey admitted this was a mistake. So not sure I see the point about Twitter not wanting to legitimize one side or the other. One party benefitted hugely from their actions.

That type of thing needs to stop.

[Midpack]

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Originally Posted by ivinsfan Calling people willfully ignorant and saying they live in an alternate universe is OK? I think it's not OK and one reason is"human nature" as it's called, seems to assume people that don't believe the same thing that you personally believe can be made fun of and mocked.

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Originally Posted by jollystomper +1 It seems that the only "willfully ignorant" people are people who do not hold one's same point of view .

FWIW, that's not what willfully ignorant means at all. Having a different point of view is most welcome, we can't learn without them.

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Willful ignorance is built on the deliberate avoidance of evidence that doesn’t match one’s existing beliefs. This can be a defense mechanism as it allows us to create a world we feel safe in, akin to confirmation bias. However, it is also often apparent in behavior that is socially harmful. In this post, we will explore what willful ignorance is and explore this in examples of how it works in everyday life.

https://www.learning-mind.com/willfu...ance-examples/

[ivinsfan]

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Originally Posted by Midpack FWIW, that's not what willfully ignorant means at all. Having a different point of view is most welcome, we can't learn without them. https://www.learning-mind.com/willfu...ance-examples/

This is a blog written by a teacher with a Batchelor degree in Social science..we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

[ivinsfan]

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Originally Posted by Koolau Heh, heh, so far, I've found folks with dark sides and those who hide them well. Then Depp et. Al., just put it all out there for everyone to see. No need for a tabloid (or Twitter, etc.) just turn on the TV (or, better yet, don't.) YMMV

Everyone has a dark side some are just a lot darker then others pretending we don't have our own dark side is what leads to Twitter implosion

[Midpack]

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Originally Posted by ivinsfan This is a blog written by a teacher with a Batchelor degree in Social science..we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

One link, but you’re welcome to your views. I don’t much care about the future of Twitter anyway…

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Willful ignorance differs from ordinary “ignorance“ — when someone is simply unaware of something — in that willfully ignorant people are fully aware of facts, resources and sources, but refuse to acknowledge them. Indeed, calling someone "ignorant" shouldn’t really be a pejorative, but intentional and willful ignorance is an entirely different matter.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Willful_ignorance

[ivinsfan]

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Originally Posted by Midpack One link, but you’re welcome to your views. I don’t much care about the future of Twitter anyway… https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Willful_ignorance

Me either so I guess we're good, but this is why we can't have nice things

[easysurfer]

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Originally Posted by Montecfo ^^^During the election, Twitter famously censored news reports damaging to one party. Then as now those reports were credible (even the NYTimes and Washington Post agree). Even Jack Dorsey admitted this was a mistake. So not sure I see the point about Twitter not wanting to legitimize one side or the other. One party benefitted hugely from their actions. That type of thing needs to stop.

A benefit to Musk owning Twitter is this may lead to new social media companies with a selling point of unlike Twitter. If Twitter, say removes "censoring" and lets folks posts what the want as long as legal, there may be alternatives companies the have a, shall we say, quieter tone.

My personal view (in Social media in general, as I'm not a Twit ) is hopefully, what comes about is more tools and power for people to filter. Choose what they want and filter out what they don't want. Censoring done at the user level. I may be naive, but a hope anyhow .

[Rianne]

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Originally Posted by Montecfo ^^^During the election, Twitter famously censored news reports damaging to one party. Then as now those reports were credible (even the NYTimes and Washington Post agree). Even Jack Dorsey admitted this was a mistake. So not sure I see the point about Twitter not wanting to legitimize one side or the other. One party benefitted hugely from their actions. That type of thing needs to stop.

I separate reporting and opinion in the NYT and WP. Very different things. Often, opinions are formed from skewed facts (?) and weaved into an opinion piece.

I respect Fareed Zakaria's opinions. I like his CNN Sunday morning show. I like Robert Costa. It's like any publication, you have to read through the weeds. I get to decide what I think is true and honest reporting or opinion. That's the nature of a free society. It scares me to think I'd be forced to believe something. Bots that deliver thought manipulation are easier than we realize. We're finally figuring that out.

There was a class I took in college that focused on subliminal advertising. It was part marketing curriculum. Happens all the time. At movies, in magazines, on Tv shows, and in TV commercials. A way of swaying your thinking without you even knowing it. The psychology behind this phenomenon is pretty fascinating. That's why I steer clear of social media. Not on FB, or any SM platform. I'll read a tweet from an article, but I'm not on Twitter or anything else.

Elon Musk said himself to a group of senators and house members years ago. I saw it on C-Span. AI should be feared more than anything else in the future.

[jollystomper]

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Originally Posted by Midpack FWIW, that's not what willfully ignorant means at all. Having a different point of view is most welcome, we can't learn without them. https://www.learning-mind.com/willfu...ance-examples/

In theory? Yes.

In practice: Some of those examples in the linked article themselves are not good examples, they are "biased" as they state things that are just not true about some of the topics, while ignoring the holes in the ones that might support their point of view - willful ignorance, perhaps? Similar to Twitter.

[braumeister]

Alas, a thread drift too far.

Thanks for the interesting discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4