View Poll Results: How does your net worth stand based on the link below?:
|
UAW = Under Accumulator of Wealth
|
  
|
3 |
5.56% |
AAW = Average Accumulator of Wealth
|
  
|
24 |
44.44% |
PAW = Prodigious Accumulator of Wealth
|
  
|
27 |
50.00% |
 |
What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
07-25-2005, 07:12 PM
|
#1
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,450
|
What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
This is a fun and easy calculation to see where you stand at least in the authors of the Millionaire Next Door theory.
http://www.banksite.com/calc/wealth
__________________
- Hurry! to the cliffs of insanity!
|
|
|
 |
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
07-25-2005, 07:29 PM
|
#2
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,105
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
Do you use gross household income or net household income - after taxes?
__________________
Sometimes death is not as tragic as not knowing how to live. This man knew how to live--and how to make others glad they were living. - Jack Benny at Nat King Cole's funeral
|
|
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
07-25-2005, 07:37 PM
|
#3
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,450
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
I believe it is gross.
__________________
- Hurry! to the cliffs of insanity!
|
|
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
07-26-2005, 09:12 AM
|
#4
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 16,257
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
Slight problem with the calculation.... My salary increased significantly the last 5 years and it made me go from PAW to AAW even though I have not had time to save as if I was making that amount for a long time.....
|
|
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
07-26-2005, 09:43 AM
|
#5
|
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: minnesota
Posts: 13,228
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
The MND test also doesn't work well for those just starting out. They might have a negative net worth from school loans and the like and as soon as they have a job, they are underaccumulators of wealth.
__________________
.
No more lawyer stuff, no more political stuff, so no more CYA
|
|
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
07-26-2005, 09:54 AM
|
#6
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,450
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
"Slight problem with the calculation....* My salary increased significantly the last 5 years and it made me go from PAW to AAW even though I have not had time to save as if I was making that amount for a long time..... "
- I would suggest that you are probably a paw, then and would use an average salary.
Yep, on the younger folks not bothering to look at this.
__________________
- Hurry! to the cliffs of insanity!
|
|
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
07-26-2005, 10:03 AM
|
#7
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,085
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
IIRC, the authors of the book indicated that the very simple formula was a derivation of a much more sophisticated formula for predicting net worth. I bet the full model does a much better job of handling the youngsters, and its probably floating around out there in the academic literature.
__________________
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
- George Orwell
Ezekiel 23:20
|
|
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
07-26-2005, 10:30 AM
|
#8
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 69
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
I've always had a problem with questionnaires that ask a retiree what their annual income is. How does a retiree determine their income? Is it pensions? Does it include interest and dividends on investments? What if the interest and dividends are reinvested? What about realized or unrealized capital gains? Social Security?
Typically, I assume a non-retiree would consider their income to be their salary - they would probably exclude other income as reported on IRS forms like gains, interest and dividends. If a retiree without a pension (living on investment income) tried to do something comparable, it seems their income would be $0.00.
|
|
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
07-26-2005, 01:08 PM
|
#9
|
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
That link didn't work for me, but if you go to Banksite.com, click to the calculators, and find the Wealth calculator, you'll get there.
What you'd really need to input is your average income for the last x years.
|
|
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
07-26-2005, 08:17 PM
|
#10
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,005
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
As a recent college grad, I have a very positive net worth (given my age and having just started out), yet due to my age and income, I am an UAW. I'd say the MND rule of thumb probably isn't very accurate if you went to college and are under 30. But assuming by the time you're 30, making $50,000, it shouldn't be too hard to accumulate the "average" amount of 30*50000/10 = $150,000.
In a more extreme example, an MD just getting out of med school and interning/residency would be making big bucks, but would likely have a negative/low net worth, so they may not even be able to use the general guideline till age 40!
|
|
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
07-28-2005, 11:28 AM
|
#11
|
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Oahu
Posts: 26,839
|
Re: What is your net worth based on the "Millionaire Next Door"
Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer12345
IIRC, the authors of the book indicated that the very simple formula was a derivation of a much more sophisticated formula for predicting net worth.* I bet the full model does a much better job of handling the youngsters, and its probably floating around out there in the academic literature.
|
Boy I'll bet Stanley regrets publishing that chapter.
He had a bunch of data. He ran a curve fit on the data and then forced it into a formula. He presented it as a way for PAWs to pat themselves on the back or for UAWs to consider the need to change their habits. I don't think he ever imagined in his worst nightmares that people would be dissecting it under a microscope...
So if you're running your own business and trying to decide where you fit among your "peers", his data might possibly be relevant. For anyone else it's just an entertaining story. As Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...
__________________
*
Co-author (with my daughter) of “Raising Your Money-Savvy Family For Next Generation Financial Independence.”
Author of the book written on E-R.org: "The Military Guide to Financial Independence and Retirement."
I don't spend much time here— please send a PM.
|
|
|
 |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
» Quick Links
|
|
|