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Old 06-07-2021, 03:41 PM   #21
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In Arizona, we've had medical MJ for years and recreational was passed last November. The local dispensary is on a main thoroughfare and there is usually a line of folks waiting to get in - number is limited due to pandemic I guess. Interestingly, some MJ products are only available to those who have a medical MJ card. I hate the idea of smoking anything so I guess if I decide to try, I'll have to go with some kind of edible. I've seen anecdotal claims that it can help achalasia; perhaps I should find out.
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Depends on the state. Oklahoma had a "mass release" not too long ago for many of these offenders. State level, NOT federal though.
That makes sense too.. Still a Federal crime... For now...
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In FL it's permitted for Medical use, and initially even when that passed it was edible/tincture only, not smokable flower/buds. But that was expanded in 2019, and it's not hard to get a license for medical use...just a matter of going to one of the many doctors who will gladly take your ~$200. The license is linked to your driver's license.

There are 3-5 dispensaries within about a 20 min drive for me, each with many products. An 1/8, which I remember being about $25 in the 80's, can still be that on less popular strains, but most run $35 to $50 - and these are squishy green buds, better looking than I ever saw in my college days. All cash only businesses of course.

It's interesting to be able to choose among the different strains, for different effect. But it does seem to be hard to find stuff that is more focused on pain relief without much THC high (and plain old OTC CBD doesn't do anything for me).
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... and these are squishy green buds, better looking than I ever saw in my college days...
As that old song from the '70s used to go: "No stems, no seeds that you don't need..."
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Here in CA legal weed seems to make remarkably little difference. The same folks who used to get high still get high. Society seems no more or less broken than it ever did.
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It's interesting to be able to choose among the different strains, for different effect. But it does seem to be hard to find stuff that is more focused on pain relief without much THC high (and plain old OTC CBD doesn't do anything for me).
And this was the part that impressed DW. They really seemed to know what worked for various conditions. The bud they recommended was fairly low in THC, and just a hit or two helps her tremor immensely for several hours. She gets a VERY mild buzz, if one at all.

She then tried some gummies, but they took longer to take effect, and gave a greater buzz (even taking a very small dose).

As far as the price, I think part of that is to NOT be a supplier to the general public. The illegal stuff is cheaper, or so I hear.
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The illegal stuff is cheaper, or so I hear.
Hum, sounds like that may be because the government isn't getting their cut?
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In Oregon it has been a nothing burger. Probably been legal 5 years (?) with medical before that. Each town/city can vote to allow it or not. Some do, some don't. If they don't the city does not share in the tax proceeds. The tax on MJ in total is about 25% of the liquor revenues....and double the cig tax revenues

The dispensaries are generally nicer than the buildings they remodel/replace. One of the bigger client base is the senior citizens. (by observation) My MIL (90 years old) used a cream for her knees for a couple years. I was joking with her last week if we needed to go back soon to her pot shop. The "budtenders are pretty helpful. I don't use much but my late wife used some edibles & drinks during her cancer treatments. It helped her. She got me to try an edible & it put me right to sleep. The budtender would be able to help me find a strain for the effect I am looking for.
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Another question, if anyone knows....

What happens to all the "convicted criminals" that are/were in jail/prison for smoking and/or possession before it was legalized? Still in jail? Released? Records cleared?
I can tell you what happens if you get arrested for possession of MJ at age 17 while at college in Texas in 1972 (felony) even if the charges are eventually dropped and then get a professional job requiring a high level Security Clearance. For the next 30 years they bring it up on every single Security Clearance re-certification (every 7 years) even though you've never failed regular random drug tests!

Things have changed a lot over the years but not with the Feds.
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I can tell you what happens if you get arrested at age 17 while at college in Texas in 1972 (felony) even if they charges are eventually dropped and then get a professional job requiring a high level Security Clearance. For the next 30 years they bring it up on every single Security Clearance re-certification (every 7 years) even though you've never failed regular random drug tests!
That reminds me of when I went to work for Mega Crop #2 back in the mid 80's... Part of the medical exam was testing for marijuana... No pass no play.

Back then it was "claimed" they could detect it in your "system" for up to 30 days after you had last smoked it... I know one guy that stalled his physical for almost a month so he could pass.
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Things have changed a lot over the years but not with the Feds.
It's a strange situation. So unfair and quite wonky, the misalignment between state and federal laws. It seems like the feds must at least decriminalize at some point. It's quite absurd to be law abiding and a criminal concurrently for the same actions.
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Medical and recreational marijuana are both legal in Illinois. Medical since 2014, recreational since 2020. There's a mj dispensary in my hometown and it's packed whenever I drive by, but I've yet to stop in.
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Curious...any cultivators out there? One of the reasons I like home brew (beer) is not paying the "sin tax". I know nothing about the weed thing, but there's got to be a lot of satisfaction in growing your own.
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Hum, sounds like that may be because the government isn't getting their cut?
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Curious...any cultivators out there? One of the reasons I like home brew (beer) is not paying the "sin tax". I know nothing about the weed thing, but there's got to be a lot of satisfaction in growing your own.
I used to grow the stuff in a closet before it was legal. Wifey was more fond than I. Had a 400 watt HPS light and a full hydroponic in there. When wifey had cancer we got a MM card and bought it ever since. The stuff you can buy is way better than what I was growing.

Closet is shut down now but I still do a couple seeds in the backyard for fun!
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Don't know if non-Rx MJ will ever be legal in Florida, but if it happens, there's a little sunny patch reserved in my garden.
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My observations are as follows:
- It's expensive... But it's also super strong (compared to the stems/seeds crap that was around when I was in college.) I like to joke that it's concentrated. Definitely 1 *small* hit is enough for a lightweight like me when I indulge every few months.

- The recreational places are run very business like. The counter clerks know their stuff (as mentioned by others) asking what effects you want or what symptoms you want to deal with.

I volunteer/attend various planning groups. NIMBY is alive and well when it comes to *any* mj related business (dispensary, rec-use shop, grow house.) My local planning group was adamant it would never be allowed in our planning area - even in the industrial zoned areas where there are no schools, no residents....

Driving after smoking is illegal. DUI - in this case the 'influence' is pot rather than booze.

Also of note - if you go to a national park - it's 100% illegal, even if you are in a state that allows it. My brother was busted for 1/4 oz of pot in Yosemite - charged as a felony, even though CA law at the time said less than 1 oz was a misdemeanor. Federal land, so federal rules applied. It's still a felony on the fed books... so leave the MJ at home when you go camping in national parks.

Even my super uptight mom used pot when she was doing chemo.... helped a lot with the pain and nausea.
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- The recreational places are run very business like. The counter clerks know their stuff (as mentioned by others) asking what effects you want or
This intrigues me.

When you buy wine you might ask the clerk at the liquor store what wine would go well with a particular meal.

With weed, can you ask something like, "I'm going to an amusement park and going on the rides. What do you recommend?"

Or, "I'm heading to the Guns N' Roses reunion concert. Any suggestions?"

"I'm going to be reading Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker books and then some Terry Pratchett. What should I get?"

"I've never seen the movie Inception. Have you got any recommendations?"

"I've got a family reunion that I've been loathing to attend. I have to go or my spouse will kill me. What have you got that will mellow me out but still allow me to function?"
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New York just legalized it, but no places are set up to sell it recreationally. Medical has its dispensaries. I think people are driving to Mass to get some.
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Curious...any cultivators out there? One of the reasons I like home brew (beer) is not paying the "sin tax". I know nothing about the weed thing, but there's got to be a lot of satisfaction in growing your own.

It was a hobby that I really enjoyed for a while. It's such a beautiful and fragrant plant, that is a real treat to watch as the females go through flowering. It takes over a month, depending on the strain, from the beginning to the finish of flowering. Cannabis isn't like a normal flower blooming, but rather a process of the buds developing more and more pistils, creating a heavy resin-coated mass of bud. The resin glistens like tiny crystals.

If you live in a legal state and enjoy gardening I'd recommend giving it a try, if only for the experience of growing it. If you enjoy smoking or edibles I can't imagine not growing your own. If you prefer edibles, you simply simmer the dried buds in water and butter for a few hours, then strain out the solids and chill the liquid to separate the butter from the water.
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