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Old 08-22-2018, 12:00 PM   #21
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As others mention, take classes at local community college or adult ed.

But, I recently saw an article from a recruiter about what not to put on resume; "skills; Word, Excel, Powerpoint…" employers now assume everyone has these skills and listing it will make them actually question the skill of the resume owner.
I still see people mentioning MS Office Suite without mentioning each one separately. I personally wouldn't mention certificates and such for these though since I think that would make you look like an amateur and inexperienced. If you're an advanced Excel person, I would definitely mention that fact.
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:05 PM   #22
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I've been using Excel and Word since they came out for MS-DOS. I also taught Excel and Access for the local community college for a number of years. Honestly, the best way to learn is to pick a personal project you are interested in and have at it.

Additionally, I've played with Google doc's and a number of other open source tools. They are OK for home use. In a business environment, there are little discrepancies that limit moving back and forth with Office.

Finally, have to agree with previous post. If you really want to stand out, get one of the VBA books and work through it. I like Excel 2013 Power Programming with VBA, but any of them would probably work.
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I don't think there was a version of MS Excel for MS-DOS.
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:29 PM   #24
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I am not knowledgeable in all three programs. I'd really love to take a class. Possibly earning a certificate. Just so a potential employer would know I took the time and spent the money so he/she would look at me as a potential, serious employee.

I've looked at colleges, vocational schools, and libraries and have not found a single class.

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I teach full time at a community college, and have taught both Excel and Access credit classes (as well as all four products in the suite in an intro class). So, you need to look further. If you message me with your location I will look into it to see what I can come up with. If you want to go further, consider the MOS (Microsoft Office Specialist) certification tests (there are expert" and "master" certification levels). The Excel and Access classes we teach use test banks and methodologies (for better or worse) that are used on the certification exam.

[For the first time in over five years, I am not teaching any Microsoft office classes this fall, instead just doing higher level computer science classes.]
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JimB is correct, it was never offered for the DOS OS. The original MS Spreadsheet program prior to the first version of Excel was entitled "Multiplan"

Interesting factoids: The "first version of Excel was entitled Excel 2.0" There never was a "1.0" Also, other spreadsheet programs were dominated by MS Excel such as Lotus 123, Quattro Pro, VP Planner, The Twin, Ashton Tate's - Full Impact (Wow, That reminds me of programming in DBase)!!!!!!
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I've been using Excel and Word since they came out for MS-DOS. I also taught Excel and Access for the local community college for a number of years. Honestly, the best way to learn is to pick a personal project you are interested in and have at it.

Additionally, I've played with Google doc's and a number of other open source tools. They are OK for home use. In a business environment, there are little discrepancies that limit moving back and forth with Office.

Finally, have to agree with previous post. If you really want to stand out, get one of the VBA books and work through it. I like Excel 2013 Power Programming with VBA, but any of them would probably work.
Yes to the bolded above. In my classes, I make the students apply their learning on a significant project. I can tell you first hand that many struggle with this, quite a few complain that they had to spend more time on the project than any of their other classes, and some (few) come to appreciate the power of being able to create something from scratch to solve a significant problem.

ETA: Yes, learning VBA (Visual Basic for Applications) is a very useful skill, especially since the programming model can be used across the Word, Excel, Access, Powerpoint. (Only the object model is different.)
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I don't think there was a version of MS Excel for MS-DOS.
Pretty sure I had one, but then I got it directly from Microsoft as part of a suite of products I was given to "play" with. Also had Multiplan (which was not very good).
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OK. Had to go back and look at history of Windows and Excel. Excel 2.0 came out in 1987 and coincided with the Release of Windows 2.0. Windows 2.0 was an overlay on top of MS-DOS. So to me it is still an MS-DOS machine. Additionally, Excel could be started directly from the MS DOS command line as it included a run-time version of Windows to support the graphics. That is how I ran it, as I did not start using Windows routinely until 3.0. Earlier versions were two "clunky" and I was pretty good on the command line.

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OK. Had to go back and look at history of Windows and Excel. Excel 2.0 came out in 1987 and coincided with the Release of Windows 2.0. Windows 2.0 was an overlay on top of MS-DOS. So to me it is still an MS-DOS machine. Additionally, Excel could be started directly from the MS DOS command line as it included a run-time version of Windows to support the graphics. That is how I ran it, as I did not start using Windows routinely until 3.0. Earlier versions were two "clunky" and I was pretty good on the command line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Excel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micros...ersion_history
Version 1 Excel was on Apple Mac.
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I found classes at the library, community college, and a senior center. All free! However, they're during the day ��. I can't take off. Don't have the time ☹️.

I did find three-one-day classes at a college. $125 per course. I'm interested in that.

Thank's for all your responses.
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