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06-14-2017, 01:35 PM
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#301
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gone traveling
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Greenville
Posts: 653
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Not sure which way people are reporting so:
8.9% YTD through June, or;
17.8% annualized
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06-14-2017, 01:53 PM
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#302
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sarasota, FL & Vermont
Posts: 36,370
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The former.... or thought of another way, as if there is no additional income or change in value between the measurement date and December 31, 2017.
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06-19-2017, 07:52 AM
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#303
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Gone but not forgotten
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Peru
Posts: 6,335
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Congratulations
If I'm reading it correctly, looks as if today, the DJIA is up about 25% from a year ago on June 17.
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06-20-2017, 12:32 PM
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#304
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Redmond
Posts: 892
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Currently my allocation is 68/28/4 (stock, bonds, cash). The S&P is up 8.98% YTD, my allocation is finally catching up, now at 7.26% or 80.9% of the S&P growth (wo div). I like to consider the allocation is very balanced moderate growth. Earlier in the year I was more 60/40 ish, so my stock growth is rapidly skewing the allocation. I am considering a re-balance today, and will likely drop the foreign bond allocation as well. Any thoughts or similar thoughts by others? Someone mentioned private money lending as an allocation, which would be similar to a bond strategy. Curious if the higher yield might follow more risk?
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06-20-2017, 12:44 PM
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#305
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gone traveling
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Greenville
Posts: 653
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Current allocation of 75/21/4. YTD performance is 8.98%
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06-20-2017, 02:13 PM
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#306
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Independence
Posts: 7,298
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If I take the difference in our net worth between 12/31/16 and 6/20/17, minus value for our residences, and divide that by the 12/31 net worth I get 3.776% gain. Of course we have fed and maintained ourselves during the last six months, so I'm ok with that.
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06-20-2017, 02:15 PM
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#307
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: New York City
Posts: 2,838
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YTD is less than yesterday. I was changing the channels and saw red arrows. Ill calculate again when i see green numbers.
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06-20-2017, 05:09 PM
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#308
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sarasota, FL & Vermont
Posts: 36,370
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Quote:
Originally Posted by imoldernu
If I'm reading it correctly, looks as if today, the DJIA is up about 25% from a year ago on June 17.
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More like 21% but still very good.
DIA SPDR® Dow Jones Industrial Average ETF ETF DIA chart
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If something cannot endure laughter.... it cannot endure.
Patience is the art of concealing your impatience.
Slow and steady wins the race.
Retired Jan 2012 at age 56
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06-27-2017, 05:55 PM
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#309
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: New York City
Posts: 2,838
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A lot less than yesterday
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Withdrawal Rate currently zero, Pension 137 % of our spending, Wasted 5 years of my prime working extra for a safe withdrawal rate. I can live like a King for a year, or a Prince for the rest of my life. I will stay on topic, I will stay on topic, I will stay on topic
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06-27-2017, 08:06 PM
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#310
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Reno
Posts: 1,338
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7.4% YTD
16% over year.
The International returns have kicked in, after dragging on the portfolio the last two-three years. (Stocks are currently 58% of the portfolio, to put in perspective.)
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06-29-2017, 02:15 PM
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#311
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: New York City
Posts: 2,838
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Less than yesterday(again)
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Withdrawal Rate currently zero, Pension 137 % of our spending, Wasted 5 years of my prime working extra for a safe withdrawal rate. I can live like a King for a year, or a Prince for the rest of my life. I will stay on topic, I will stay on topic, I will stay on topic
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06-30-2017, 06:12 PM
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#312
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 2,745
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Ended the 1st half of the year with 6.96% increase YTD. My winners are the international & chemical funds. On average, they are up in high teen area. Even the bond funds are doing ok at 2 - 4% increase. My short term trades returned about 7%, performing below the S&P 500.
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06-30-2017, 06:28 PM
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#313
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
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Six months already? Time flies while one is goofing off.
My stash is up 7.90% YTD as of close of market on 6/30. Two days ago, it was 8.71%.
Not complaining, as VFINX (S&P surrogate) is up 9.26%, and I capture 85% of that gain while not being 85% in equity. Hope to hang on to that gain in the days ahead.
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06-30-2017, 07:31 PM
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#314
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sarasota, FL & Vermont
Posts: 36,370
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pb4uski
3.75% YTD through 2/28/2017... a good start for the year, but only 2 months so it would be a little premature to get too excited.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pb4uski
4.63% YTD based on XIRR of beginning balance, withdrawals, cash dividends and ending balance using a 12/31/2017 date. AA of 60/35/5.
I have been rebalancing more often than normal into the rally to keep cash up giving upcoming wedding costs later this year.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pb4uski
6.88% YTD.... pinch me! 16.5% for the year at this pace... not that I'm counting on that but it would be nice.
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7.44% YTD... so far so good.
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Patience is the art of concealing your impatience.
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07-01-2017, 04:30 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,252
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YTD (June 30, 2017) returns for a collection of 'close-to' 60/40 funds (from Morningstar.com):
7.42% VSMGX Vg LifeStrategy Moderate Growth (60/40)
7.01% VTWNX Vg Target Retirement 2020 (56/45)
6.34% VBIAX Vg Balanced Index (60/40), no foreign
6.32% DGSIX DFA Global 60/40 I, small-cap & value tilted
6.20% VWENX Vg Wellington (65/35)
7.83% VTTVX Vg Target Retirement 2025 (65/35)
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07-01-2017, 05:29 AM
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#316
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: On a hill in the Pine Barrens
Posts: 9,720
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Quote:
Originally Posted by target2019
Overall weighted performance is 4.99% for 55/45 portfolio (stocks/bonds).
Newer 401k performance is on a tear:
From 01/01/2017 to 05/31/2017
American Funds American Balanced R6 Fund: 5.05%
American Funds New World R6 Fund: 15.78%
Account Total: 14.48%
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Mid-2017 Investments Summary - 9.34% new contributions + performance
- 5.61% YTD Weighted Performance overall
14.47% new 401k still setting the pace. - American Funds American Balanced R6 Fund: 4.06%
- American Funds New World R6 Fund: 16.43%
Also rebalanced at the beginning of June, and reduced equity target: - 53 Equity / 42 Fixed / 5 Cash
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07-01-2017, 05:53 AM
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#317
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sarasota, FL & Vermont
Posts: 36,370
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LOL!
YTD (June 30, 2017) returns for a collection of 'close-to' 60/40 funds (from Morningstar.com):
7.42% VSMGX Vg LifeStrategy Moderate Growth (60/40)
7.01% VTWNX Vg Target Retirement 2020 (56/45)
6.34% VBIAX Vg Balanced Index (60/40), no foreign
6.32% DGSIX DFA Global 60/40 I, small-cap & value tilted
6.20% VWENX Vg Wellington (65/35)
7.83% VTTVX Vg Target Retirement 2025 (65/35)
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Good info. Also, VTWNX Vg Target Retirement 2020 is ~55/45 and returned 7.01% YTD... so averaging VTTVX and VTWNX is 7.42% and a good 60/40 benchmark for me... and I was 7.44% so pretty close.
But now I notice that VSMGX seems to be a better/easier benchmark as it also uses a mix of Total Stock, Total International Stock, Total Bond Total International Bond that approximates my target AA.
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If something cannot endure laughter.... it cannot endure.
Patience is the art of concealing your impatience.
Slow and steady wins the race.
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07-01-2017, 06:18 AM
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#318
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,743
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7.46% on a 56/44 AA for the first half of 2017. I will be ecstatic if the second half is as good.
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07-01-2017, 07:42 AM
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#319
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Posts: 9,521
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For 6 month check my portfolio is up 15.77% with a 70/30 stock/bond. If I figure this same gain for 12 month's not gaining anything more it would be 7.60%. I would be happy with 2 or 3% for the year. I never like to get greedy because I know the down side very well. Lol
I have been retired for 14 months and just did what my portfolio has gained for those 14 months. My gain is 12.30% and I'm ecstatic with those numbers. I also stay very humble like I said before I know that hard times are down the road.
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07-01-2017, 08:59 AM
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#320
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Administrator
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: N. Yorkshire
Posts: 34,128
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3.92% - XIRR as of July 1st
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Retired in Jan, 2010 at 55, moved to England in May 2016
Enough private pension and SS income to cover all needs
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