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Old 07-29-2017, 09:36 AM   #361
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8.95 (round up to 9%?); 60/25/15. International component is finally "working" after being a drag for several years. (I hope that afterthought doesn't jinx it.)
Yeah, I have a nice chunk in International too. When we researched AA it seemed like a good choice. In my case for almost 10 years they were a drag. I know If i get out of them, they will rocket, so I'll hold them and "stay the course"
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Old 07-29-2017, 03:38 PM   #362
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401K is up 13.7% as of close Friday.....all just sitting in retire 2025 and retire 2030 funds. Tempted to put in something safe for the probable October adjustment.
Looks like that 13.7% includes contribution, as I would be very surprised that any retirement fund, due to their portfolio, could beat the S&P which returns 11.6% as of 7/28/2017.


As for me, it's 11.3%, which is quite allright considering that my AA is 70% stock, 5% bonds, 25% cash.

Yes, internationals have been doing well this year. It's about time, and 25% of my stocks are international.
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Old 07-29-2017, 05:53 PM   #363
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Ended the 1st half of the year with 6.96% increase YTD. My winners are the international & chemical funds. On average, they are up in high teen area. Even the bond funds are doing ok at 2 - 4% increase. My short term trades returned about 7%, performing below the S&P 500.

Up another 1+% to 8.2% since a month ago. This month's story line is just about the same as above.

I wish this bull run keeps up but that'd be like asking for the moon. If I end the year in anything north of 6%, that'd be ideal. Yes, I expect a bit of market correction before the year's end.
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As of the market close of 7/31, I'm up 10.3% YTD, spend-adjusted, all-in.

As with others, I attribute a good bit of the growth to international, which had tracked over the top of it's corridor, so I rebalanced it back to center.
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Looks like that 13.7% includes contribution, as I would be very surprised that any retirement fund, due to their portfolio, could beat the S&P which returns 11.6% as of 7/28/2017.



As for me, it's 11.3%, which is quite allright considering that my AA is 70% stock, 5% bonds, 25% cash.

Vanguard Lifestyle Growth Fund (VASGX) @ 11.52%. This fund is 80/20.

Not quite up to Vanguard's S&P Fund @ 11.64%, but pretty close.

For a target fund that beats the S&P, Vanguard's 2060 Fund @ 12.74% beats with a 90/10 composition. Their 80/20 fund (target 2035) is at 11.5%. Pretty close to the lifestyle fund and S&P.

Surprised?

Not really. International has done well this year (finally).

Editing to add all of these %s are as of 7/28/2017.
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YTD 7.06%. Canadian stocks are dragging the whole thing down.
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Vanguard Lifestyle Growth Fund (VASGX) @ 11.52%. This fund is 80/20.

Not quite up to Vanguard's S&P Fund @ 11.64%, but pretty close.

For a target fund that beats the S&P, Vanguard's 2060 Fund @ 12.74% beats with a 90/10 composition. Their 80/20 fund (target 2035) is at 11.5%. Pretty close to the lifestyle fund and S&P.

Surprised?

Not really. International has done well this year (finally).

Editing to add all of these %s are as of 7/28/2017.
OK. I have never looked at these Lifestyle funds, so did not know they have internationals in their portfolio.

Yes, of course international MFs do well this year. I have a bit in VWIGX (Vanguard Int. Growth), and it pops 30% YTD. The previous 2 years it was threading water and getting nowhere.
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Seems like about 9% YTD. Cash is kind of dragging down the SPY funds plus had some money in a Vanguard large cap index which didn't perform so well YTD (it is only up like 7%).

Just goes to show you Vanguard isn't the only way to go. Investing in SPY with its 0.09% expense ratio would get you a 12% return. One fund portfolio.
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Or Schwab's SCHB (US Broad Market) at 10.13% YTD and 0.03% ER, or SCHG (Large cap growth) at 16.27% YTD and 0.04% ER, or SCHF (International) at 17.26% and 0.06% ER.

All kinds of way to make money, until the market crashes then everybody loses.
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Investments alone are up double digits. I still am saving money every month from my pension checks. Really sick(in a good way)) in terms of dollar value. With my skill set, I couldn't earn this kind of money punching the clock if there were was 5 of me.. This must mean the end is near.
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Or Schwab's SCHB (US Broad Market) at 10.13% YTD and 0.03% ER, or SCHG (Large cap growth) at 16.27% YTD and 0.04% ER, or SCHF (International) at 17.26% and 0.06% ER.

All kinds of way to make money, until the market crashes then everybody loses.
Growth is beating Value 2 to 1 on performance:

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60/40 TSM/TBM benchmark is 8.0%
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I am not interested enough to blend all those returns.
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60/40 TSM/TBM benchmark is 8.0%
I'm not sure that is a relevant benchmark since it excludes international stocks... I am 60/40 as well and I prefer the Vanguard LifeStrategy Moderate Growth Fund (VSMGX) as a benchmark because it is more similar to my AA, which includes a signficant slug of international stocks and I suspect that international stocks explain your excess over the 8.0%.
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