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03-27-2017, 06:13 AM
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#121
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Colorado
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YTD just under 4% all in including cash. AA approximately 60/35/5.
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03-31-2017, 10:38 PM
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#122
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
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So, I closed the first trimester of 2017 with a gain of 5.49%, calculated over every account, including the last penny in the checking account.
Reasonably happy with it, considering that I am only 66% in equities, with much of the rest in cash. The S&P is up 6.37% for the period, and I got 86% of that gain.
It may just evaporate next week, but so far so good.
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03-31-2017, 11:09 PM
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#123
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Southern Cal
Posts: 4,032
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My IRA is still 5%, but my taxable account is a lot higher. I'm surprised by my stocks picking ability.
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03-31-2017, 11:26 PM
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#124
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Houston
Posts: 958
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YTD return as of 3/31 is ~0.1% with asset allocation of 85% equities /15% fixed assets. Includes all liquid assets including living expense funds. Accounts for adds/removes from portfolio except for some dividends that I'll figure out when account statements come out, won't change the result much. Return was driven by losses in energy sector assets (dropped 8 to 10%) which were then offset by gains in the rest of the assets, lead by the only new asset purchased this year (Vanguard health care fund purchased in late Jan up 12.7%).
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04-01-2017, 06:04 AM
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#125
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sarasota, FL & Vermont
Posts: 36,375
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pb4uski
3.75% YTD through 2/28/2017... a good start for the year, but only 2 months so it would be a little premature to get too excited.
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4.63% YTD based on XIRR of beginning balance, withdrawals, cash dividends and ending balance using a 12/31/2017 date. AA of 65/35/5.
I have been rebalancing more often than normal into the rally to keep cash up giving upcoming wedding costs later this year.
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04-01-2017, 06:34 AM
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#126
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Administrator
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: N. Yorkshire
Posts: 34,130
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XIRR 2.27% through April 1st
AA 46/54/0
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Retired in Jan, 2010 at 55, moved to England in May 2016
Enough private pension and SS income to cover all needs
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04-01-2017, 06:43 AM
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#127
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 442
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5.15% thru March 31, 2017 as per personalcapital.com across all accounts
(53%-domestic/25%-international/20% Bonds/2% cash)
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04-01-2017, 07:39 AM
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#128
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: On a hill in the Pine Barrens
Posts: 9,722
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Quote:
Originally Posted by target2019
A bit early for end of Feb 2017. Will have to do:
YTD Wghtd Perf - 3.57%
Port Total YTD - 8.13%
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Above was for YTD February.
YTD end of March 2017:
3.73% - YTD Wghtd Perf for Equity/Fixed/Cash (55/40/5)
7.75% - Port Total YTD
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04-01-2017, 07:40 AM
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#129
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,252
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pb4uski
4.63% YTD based on XIRR of beginning balance, withdrawals, cash dividends and ending balance using a 12/31/2017 date. AA of 65/35/5.
I have been rebalancing more often than normal into the rally to keep cash up giving upcoming wedding costs later this year.
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I really like that 105% allocation total. So you borrow 5% and invest it? What interest rate do you pay?
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04-01-2017, 07:44 AM
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#130
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,252
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YTD (March 31, 2017) returns for a collection of 'close-to' 60/40 funds (from Morningstar.com):
4.35% VSMGX Vg LifeStrategy Moderate Growth (60/40)
4.10% VTWNX Vg Target Retirement 2020 (57/43)
3.82% VBIAX Vg Balanced Index (60/40)
3.84% DGSIX DFA Global 60/40 I
3.45% VWENX Vg Wellington (66/34)
4.59% VTTVX Vg Target Retirement 2025 (65/35)
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04-01-2017, 07:48 AM
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#131
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sarasota, FL & Vermont
Posts: 36,375
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LOL!
I really like that 105% allocation total. So you borrow 5% and invest it? What interest rate do you pay?
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Oops.... make that 60/35/5.
Actually, if I grossed it up for my mortgage and car loan, both of which are marginally invested, I would be 65/37/6... pretty close to my typo. Mortgage is 3.375% and car loan is 1.9%.
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04-01-2017, 07:52 AM
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#132
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Atlanta suburbs
Posts: 633
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YTD: 5.2%
YTD out-performance (against 60/40 benchmark) due to healthcare tilt.
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04-01-2017, 09:21 AM
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#133
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: yonder
Posts: 2,851
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Using moneychimp.com to do the calculations, my dividend portfolio is up 3.01%. I am using the dividend portfolio (which consists of stocks that have a very high/high safety ranking by Value Line) as a component of my bond allocation.
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04-01-2017, 10:33 AM
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#134
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: St. Charles
Posts: 3,919
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YTD 4.4%, after correcting for spending (60/30/10)
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04-01-2017, 10:36 AM
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#135
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 979
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5.59% now.
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04-01-2017, 12:01 PM
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#136
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Seattle
Posts: 479
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4.73% as of 3/31 in Megacorp 401K (keeping it there for now). AA is 70/30. I'll take it!!
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04-01-2017, 12:09 PM
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#137
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Redmond
Posts: 892
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According to personal capital, our allocation is 47.5 US stock/16.5 Int Stock/22.42 US Bond/7.4 Int Bonds/2.5% cash (cash in MF)/3.7% Alt
Our performance YTD at 3.7% is 65% of the S&P of 5.5%, better if compared to Dow at 4.6%. This is highly correlated to our equity allocation.
I am certain our under performance was primarily due to higher bond allocation earlier in the quarter Where we were performing to 58% of the S&P with more of a 60/37/3 allocation.
We are very close to the efficient frontier risk for our allocation within 0.1% of performance, and 0.2% of the risk. I did this intentionally through some recent rebalancing.
I am curious how some folks like us in retirement, are getting a higher performance. What traditional measure of risk? Not just the performance but how do their allocations approach the efficient frontier?
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04-01-2017, 01:48 PM
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#138
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,252
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Happyras
[…] Our performance YTD at 3.7%
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I am curious how some folks like us in retirement, are getting a higher performance. What traditional measure of risk? Not just the performance but how do their allocations approach the efficient frontier?
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If you look inside the funds I listed this morning in this thread, then you can see that higher allocations to foreign equities helped and lower allocations to US small cap value helped, too. Here is a chart to show that:
Also "efficient frontier" does not mean "best return." Personal Capital touts a small-cap value overweight, but SCV did great in Nov-Dec 2016 and has taken a breather so far in 2017.
Bond funds have done relatively well: Despite FFR hikes in December and March, bond funds are up 1% for the quarter and on track for a very typical one-year return of 4%.
Big question though: Is it time to rebalance out of foreign into US small-cap value?
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04-01-2017, 01:59 PM
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#139
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Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: City
Posts: 10,351
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I have taken a rubber-meets-the-road approach to performance lately, setting up specific $100K equity tranches to test various portfolios:
- Couch Potato; 2/3 total US market, 1/3 total Int'l: 6.4%
- Schwab "Intelligent Portfolios" 5.7%
- DFA 50/50 USA/Int'l with a slight emerging market tilt: 6.2% net of 1Q 12.5bp fee
ACWI All Cap World Index (Large+Mid+Small+Micro Cap) Total Return: 6.82%
That stock picking doesn't work is very old statistical news. So I don't do it. Sad to say it took me almost 40 years of investing to finally understand that nobody in the investment business knows anything useful.
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04-01-2017, 02:10 PM
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#140
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,252
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@OldShooter, that's a nice experiment. I predict your 100% equity ploys will create something like a Callan Periodic Table of Investment Returns. Just worry about skating to where the puck was.
So instead of stock picking, what about asset class picking? Or at least predicting the future near-term performance of asset classes?
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