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06-20-2022, 01:26 PM
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#421
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gone traveling
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: DFW
Posts: 7,586
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound
The economy may not recover, but the market always leads.
It's the same as the market is already down 20% from the top, but the economy just started to slow.
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You said you were hoping Wellesley would recover by years end, so that is what I was referring to.
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06-20-2022, 02:52 PM
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#422
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VFK57
With current inflation, you will have losses with 2.8 - 4% income vs 8.6% inflation.
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True. But she's waiting until more people post this emoticon before buying back in. She's losing less than market right now.
Market timing is not the same as hoarding cash forever.
I myself have lots of cash instead of bonds. Still love my stocks too much.
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06-21-2022, 02:14 AM
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#423
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,691
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound
Except that the market may go a lot lower before it returns to its historical return of 9-10%/year.
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It’s been a very organized decline, no panic yet…once panic sets in then it will be near the bottom.
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06-30-2022, 01:58 PM
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#424
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Upstate
Posts: 2,951
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A couple minutes before market close on the quarter....I don't think any of us will be pleased posting our YTD numbers. Ugh.
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06-30-2022, 02:20 PM
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#425
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
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Whoever loses less wins.
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"Old age is the most unexpected of all things that happen to a man" -- Leon Trotsky (1879-1940)
"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
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06-30-2022, 02:35 PM
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#426
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Upstate
Posts: 2,951
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound
Whoever loses less wins.
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Is it not better to have won then lost, then to have never won before?
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06-30-2022, 02:52 PM
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#427
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 4,373
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As long as you don't lose it all.
^^^^
Just kidding, I have absolute surety that I will not go to zero. I'm a big market supporter, it got me to this point.
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You can't spend yourself to prosperity.
Semi-Retired 7/1/16: working part-time (60%) for now [4/24/17 changed to 80%]
Retired Aug 2, 2017; age 53
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06-30-2022, 03:11 PM
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#428
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
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I will defer the question to Cathie Wood.
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"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
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06-30-2022, 04:19 PM
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#429
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Severn
Posts: 947
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-23% YTD. 67/33 AA
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06-30-2022, 04:51 PM
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#430
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
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Jan 31, YTD -4.18%, stock AA 78.0%
Feb 28, YTD -3.22%, stock AA 73.8%.
Mar 31, YTD -0.18%, stock AA 74.7%
Apr 30, YTD -7.57%, stock AA 74.6%
May 31, YTD: -4.44%, stock AA 72.4%
Jun 30, YTD: -12.2%, stock AA 70.8%
June was a really bad month. It can only go up from here.
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"Old age is the most unexpected of all things that happen to a man" -- Leon Trotsky (1879-1940)
"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
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06-30-2022, 05:47 PM
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#431
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Spring, Texas
Posts: 485
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As of 1-Jul-22 our Portfolio is down <-12.44%> from 1-Jan-22.
Current Asset Allocation is 49.1% Equities, 43.7% Bonds, 7.2% Cash
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Retired 1-Feb-21 at age 61
AA 50/30/20 ish....
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06-30-2022, 05:56 PM
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#432
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,293
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Up 3.4% YTD
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06-30-2022, 05:57 PM
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#433
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Western NC
Posts: 4,633
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Is it:
Buy on the dip?
Or catch a falling knife?
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06-30-2022, 06:00 PM
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#434
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,225
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Down 15.8% with 50/50 asset allocation, year to date. Not as much fun to watch this year.
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06-30-2022, 06:05 PM
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#435
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Way up North
Posts: 561
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A quick check for the first half 2022 stats. 60/40 portfolio with some covered call selling that blunted the drop slightly. I also withdrew $25K for living expenses so far, that's included in the drop:
2022 YTD:-18.3%, -$570K from ATH . Damn, I "lost" $1/2 a mill. Well that sucks. I don't think I'll check it again until EOY.
If I wanted to look at it thru rose colored glasses, I am up still up 16.6% for the most recent 24 months and have $135K more than I did on retirement day 21 months ago.
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06-30-2022, 06:21 PM
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#436
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
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^^^ If you don't check, you will not know if you become eligible for the "Million Dollar Club": the club of posters who lost a 7-figure sum in a market downturn.
In the subprime fiasco of 2008-2009, several posters had that honor. With the bull market since then, posters have become more prosperous, and the club membership will be more widespread this time.
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"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
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06-30-2022, 06:25 PM
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#437
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ncbill
Is it:
Buy on the dip?
Or catch a falling knife?
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1) Buy on the dip: Right after you buy, the market goes up and you run a victory lap.
2) Catching a falling knife: You buy at 20% lower than the high, just to see it drops another 20%. You cry into your cheap beer, because that's all you can afford.
The two conditions are not mutually exclusive. First, 1) happens. Then a week later, 2) happens.
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"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
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06-30-2022, 06:36 PM
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#438
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 8,968
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Number 2 is always worst than #1.
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06-30-2022, 06:46 PM
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#439
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: North of Montana
Posts: 2,769
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound
^^^ If you don't check, you will not know if you become eligible for the "Million Dollar Club": the club of posters who lost a 7-figure sum in a market downturn.
In the subprime fiasco of 2008-2009, several posters had that honor....
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I was one of those. Less than 3/4 of the way now, but time will tell. Most of my money is in the Canadian TSX which has not lost what the S&P has.
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06-30-2022, 07:21 PM
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#440
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kumquat
I was one of those. Less than 3/4 of the way now, but time will tell. Most of my money is in the Canadian TSX which has not lost what the S&P has.
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Yes.
As often claimed, my "superior" memory registered many disparate random things, and your loss then was one of the things I remember.
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