Hopeful
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Yesterday I introduced myself to the board, and today I wanted to start a new thread to get some guidance regarding asset allocation with mine and DW's employer sponsored 403b plan. I started yesterday by looking into having our bond allocation more within the tax deferred 403b. The only 2 bond options were PIMCO total return and Pioneer Strategic income. Both charge around 0.7%, and we currently have our bond allocation split between the two. I have become very frustrated looking at the fees being charged by my plan. I got really upset this morning when I started reading the fine print. ING charges an extra 0.32% annually on balances held in Vanguard funds. WOW, here I thought I was investing in low cost funds!!
One option was mentioned that I could set up a self directed brokerage account with TDAmeritrade through ING. Well after multiple phone calls to understand this option, it turns out I can only trade mutual funds. The only mutual funds available with no fees are high cost ones. All Vanguards funds it seems that there would be a $25 fee on each transaction. Suddenly this is not looking to be such a great option.
Another option for the bond portion is ING has a fixed account paying 3% this year. This may be an option since the bond market is expected to see falling prices with rising interest rates. There may be some restrictions on transferring in and out of this option, so it would require another call to ING to sort that out.
Another option would be to use Vanguard Target Income within my plan for the Fixed income. This fund has a 70% bond allocation. The drawback is that it would make rebalancing cumbersome. Also this is less attractive considering the additional 0.32% ING will charge on Vanguard balances.
The more I am writing this the more I am thinking that the SDBA with TD Ameritrade might be better. Currently with more than 400K in Vanguard funds in ING that 0.32% in fees is $1280 a year. Even if I rebalance once or twice a year the $25/fund/transaction fee might not be so bad in comparison.
Any advice would be appreciated. Any thoughts on using the 3% fixed (if there are not too many restrictions) vs Intermediate Term Bond Index fund?
One option was mentioned that I could set up a self directed brokerage account with TDAmeritrade through ING. Well after multiple phone calls to understand this option, it turns out I can only trade mutual funds. The only mutual funds available with no fees are high cost ones. All Vanguards funds it seems that there would be a $25 fee on each transaction. Suddenly this is not looking to be such a great option.
Another option for the bond portion is ING has a fixed account paying 3% this year. This may be an option since the bond market is expected to see falling prices with rising interest rates. There may be some restrictions on transferring in and out of this option, so it would require another call to ING to sort that out.
Another option would be to use Vanguard Target Income within my plan for the Fixed income. This fund has a 70% bond allocation. The drawback is that it would make rebalancing cumbersome. Also this is less attractive considering the additional 0.32% ING will charge on Vanguard balances.
The more I am writing this the more I am thinking that the SDBA with TD Ameritrade might be better. Currently with more than 400K in Vanguard funds in ING that 0.32% in fees is $1280 a year. Even if I rebalance once or twice a year the $25/fund/transaction fee might not be so bad in comparison.
Any advice would be appreciated. Any thoughts on using the 3% fixed (if there are not too many restrictions) vs Intermediate Term Bond Index fund?