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03-03-2014, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra9777
So... you'd be OK with Texas seceding from the union?
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Texas is still part of the Union?
Seriously, I see this Ukraine situation as an amusing bump in the road. Even if Russia were to takeover Ukraine then I predict Putin would have a coyote ugly moment when he wakes up.
Also see Urban Dictionary: coyote ugly
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03-03-2014, 05:22 PM
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gone traveling
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Originally Posted by sanfanciscotreat
Glad I took some profits during the past two weeks when a certain stock hit a high. That plus proceeds from selling a house should keep us in eggs and bacon for at least a couple of years
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If you're invested for the long-term with allocation you can tolerate, why?
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03-03-2014, 05:24 PM
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gone traveling
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If you're nervous about how you're invested and are thinking about changes over this situation, you're not properly invested to begin with. Crises happen over and over. Plan with this in mind.
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03-03-2014, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra9777
So... you'd be OK with Texas seceding from the union?
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If the citizens voted for it, sure.
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03-03-2014, 05:37 PM
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I don't think it will have a lasting effect on the markets but it could for people in that region. I went scuba diving the other day and there was a Canadian aboard who was originally from Ukraine. He is deeply worried about the prospects of civil war and what effect that will have on family and friends back home. He said they've already had their life savings wiped out twice before and doesn't think they'll be able to deal with a third time.
And Putin is a thug and a thief. He was elevated to positions of power by wealthy oligarchs who mistakenly thought they could control him. Most of them ended up dead or in prison. Stay tuned.
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03-03-2014, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LOL!
If the citizens voted for it, sure.
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Which citizens the Texans or everyone in the other states  ?
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03-03-2014, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by samclem
Anticipate a bit or a stiffening of NATO's spine, and more assistance (not troops, but tech and $$) to the eastern frontier with the USSR Russian Federation.
Interesting that there have been some protests in Moscow. If this is played right, this could hurt Putin, but there's no present indication that it's being played right.
The urgent step for now is to halt the spread at Crimea, to assure eastern Ukraine that their long-term interests are with the west, not Russia.
Ukraine gave up the nuclear weapons on her territory after the USSR broke up. They did this in exchange for guarantees that Russia would stay out. So much for the much-dreamed of rollback in the nuclear club. The lesson has already been learned that nuclear weapons are a much more effective guarantee of neighborly nonaggression than any paper agreement.
Ukrainians, Georgians, Poles, Czechs--it helps to travel over there a bit. What they went through is still fresh on their minds. They will do a lot to avoid a repeat. I wish them all good luck, as they've had their share of the other kind.
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Agree 100% that this ain't just about Crimea. IMHO- Crimea is Putin's already. Big worry is Putin may expand further & threaten Eastern Europe. And as you point out, after Russia's direct violation of 1994 Budapest Accord (and UN Charter) what other nation will voluntarily give up its nukes in exchange for what turns out to be utterly worthless international agreements. And lack of prompt, concrete response (preferably economic) to this violation of international law tends to embolden territorial actions by certain other nations.
Putin is playing chess while US & Europe (particularly Germany) are playing marbles......or perhaps have lost theirs  This game will end ONLY when Putin finds it in his own best interest to do so.
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03-03-2014, 05:45 PM
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Non event relative to the stock market. Thanks for asking.
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03-03-2014, 05:46 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
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Originally Posted by Cobra9777
So... you'd be OK with Texas seceding from the union?
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That would awesome. Would be a great country to retire in.
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03-03-2014, 05:58 PM
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I couldn't resist posting this often quoted clip...
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03-03-2014, 05:58 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
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Originally Posted by gerntz
If you're invested for the long-term with allocation you can tolerate, why?
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It is known as investing for total return, using, dividends and capital gains. LTCG's are attractive for the 15% fed tax rate.
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03-03-2014, 06:04 PM
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I actually spent a fair bit of time in different parts of the Ukraine teaching from 2004-2008 and still have many contacts there. They are all very concerned about what is going on but most of all, regardless of whether their leanings are Ukrainian or Russian, they long for good, honest and accountable government.
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03-03-2014, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Turboslacker
Non event relative to the stock market.
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Which crystal ball did you use?
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03-03-2014, 06:35 PM
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Let's worry more about what is happening near the good old USA. How about Venezuela, or Cuba, or drug cartels in Mexico? Even Uppity Canadians!  Why are we so easily distracted by things that have the least effect on our lives?
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03-03-2014, 07:08 PM
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I'm not worried from an financial investment perspective. This too shall pass. I'm more worried as we have friends over there, some who have kids in Ukraine's armed forces. The concern is more personal than financial.
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03-03-2014, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Spanky
Did someone say that same thing about IRAQ?
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Omce upon a time there was a Yugoslavia, Bosnia... there was some activity Kosovo as well. Hmmmm. Remember Scott O'Grady?
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03-03-2014, 07:32 PM
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I think there will be an impact, but I think it will be temporary, from which the indexes will quickly recover. The panic crew made their moves today: I think we'll see things stabilize in a week. At the risk of getting political, Putin has tactically won already, and I don't see any nation rocking the boat too much over Crimea! when no one's been hurt and the move was popular with a large portion of Crimean residents.
I don't see any reason to change strategies...
Just my $.02
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03-03-2014, 07:39 PM
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Dont be niave. This is Russia vs the USA. The stakes are much higher as this could escalate exponentially. I doubt it will since a hawk is not in da house, but the potential is always there. Its much more serious than Syria.
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03-03-2014, 07:50 PM
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I'm more worried from a war standpoint than finances.
But maybe it's about time to get back to the "good old days" where Russia and the USA can't stand each other. 
At last we'd know where each stands.
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03-03-2014, 07:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al in Ohio
Dont be niave. This is Russia vs the USA. The stakes are much higher as this could escalate exponentially. I doubt it will since a hawk is not in da house, but the potential is always there. Its much more serious than Syria.
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So I should rent a backhoe and start digging the backyard bomb shelter post haste?
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