mistershankly
Recycles dryer sheets
Hello all, I have been a long time reader/lurker here and have read through some great advice and insight, and I thought I'd throw my current situation out for your thoughts, advice, and critiques.
I am 42 and DW is 41, no kids, debt free (house, cars, etc) and on track to FIRE in about 5-7 years depending on how consistently things grow in our portfolio. I have contributed to a non-matching 401k that carried funds with relatively high costs and little choice. The funds are currently allocated in rough proportion to the Gone Fishin' Porfolio in the best options I could invest in from a relatively terrible selection of funds. My approach has been lukewarm and a bitter pill to swallow but I figured something invested in this tax-advantaged account was better than nothing in the long run. Additionally, these funds could eventually roll over into a Vanguard rollover Roth after I leave the company and be allocated properly. The 401k program itself was a bad implementation by upper management folks who had no clue on personal finance. Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on how you look at it), I have been a member of that upper management team for the past 8 years and my repeated lobbying to get a better 401k program was finally implemented. From October on, our new 401k will have access to a plethora of Vanguard funds with low expense ratios as well as a small, limited matching program. This change has made me rethink my 401k funds in the larger picture of my portfolio.
I am conflicted regarding how to reallocate the funds in the new 401k within the larger picture of FIRE and when I plan on accessing the funds. Specifically, I don't intend on touching the 401k funds for another 20 years, and I have a portfolio set aside (equities, real estate rental cash flow) to cover the 12 or so years between FIRE and having to access the 401k funds. While I understand the need to stay the course on the 401k funds (reallocated to Vanguard funds, of course), I wonder if taking this opportunity when the changeover is being made in the 401k and investing these tax-advantaged funds in a more aggressive 401k portfolio (Total Stock Market, Emerging Markets, International Stock Market in 60/20/20… little to no bonds) may be advisable since it will have 20 years to grow and recover from market fluctuations. At the 10 or 15 year mark, the funds may be rebalanced to a more conservative model (60/40, 40/60, or just all in a balanced fund like Wellesley) depending on our personal, financial situation at the time. Is this too risky (even for my high threshold for risk relative to this segment of my portfolio) and I should have those funds allocated in the same proportion as my near-term, taxable investments (currently, 60/40)?
I've read about investing approaches that model a selection of portfolios depending on when the funds will be accessed (pre-retirement, possible home purchase, post-retirement, etc) and other approaches that invest all holdings based on the same allocation model. I would appreciate your thoughts on this and feel free to tell me I'm crazy with any of my thinking. I can also provide any more details if needed.
Thanks in advance!!
I am 42 and DW is 41, no kids, debt free (house, cars, etc) and on track to FIRE in about 5-7 years depending on how consistently things grow in our portfolio. I have contributed to a non-matching 401k that carried funds with relatively high costs and little choice. The funds are currently allocated in rough proportion to the Gone Fishin' Porfolio in the best options I could invest in from a relatively terrible selection of funds. My approach has been lukewarm and a bitter pill to swallow but I figured something invested in this tax-advantaged account was better than nothing in the long run. Additionally, these funds could eventually roll over into a Vanguard rollover Roth after I leave the company and be allocated properly. The 401k program itself was a bad implementation by upper management folks who had no clue on personal finance. Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on how you look at it), I have been a member of that upper management team for the past 8 years and my repeated lobbying to get a better 401k program was finally implemented. From October on, our new 401k will have access to a plethora of Vanguard funds with low expense ratios as well as a small, limited matching program. This change has made me rethink my 401k funds in the larger picture of my portfolio.
I am conflicted regarding how to reallocate the funds in the new 401k within the larger picture of FIRE and when I plan on accessing the funds. Specifically, I don't intend on touching the 401k funds for another 20 years, and I have a portfolio set aside (equities, real estate rental cash flow) to cover the 12 or so years between FIRE and having to access the 401k funds. While I understand the need to stay the course on the 401k funds (reallocated to Vanguard funds, of course), I wonder if taking this opportunity when the changeover is being made in the 401k and investing these tax-advantaged funds in a more aggressive 401k portfolio (Total Stock Market, Emerging Markets, International Stock Market in 60/20/20… little to no bonds) may be advisable since it will have 20 years to grow and recover from market fluctuations. At the 10 or 15 year mark, the funds may be rebalanced to a more conservative model (60/40, 40/60, or just all in a balanced fund like Wellesley) depending on our personal, financial situation at the time. Is this too risky (even for my high threshold for risk relative to this segment of my portfolio) and I should have those funds allocated in the same proportion as my near-term, taxable investments (currently, 60/40)?
I've read about investing approaches that model a selection of portfolios depending on when the funds will be accessed (pre-retirement, possible home purchase, post-retirement, etc) and other approaches that invest all holdings based on the same allocation model. I would appreciate your thoughts on this and feel free to tell me I'm crazy with any of my thinking. I can also provide any more details if needed.
Thanks in advance!!