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05-16-2023, 08:22 PM
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#1381
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Sunny California
Posts: 2,371
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Originally Posted by Car-Guy
FWIW
I just stumbled into another "gotcha" on brokered CD's. So I've been buying more and more CD's that pay interest (coupon frequency) on a monthly basis rather than at maturity... So far they have been paying off like a slot machine. Right on time and for the exact amounts I have calculated.
That is until now....I have one with a bank in North Carolina (through Schwab) and the first payment was due Sunday 5/14/23. So I expected to see my account credited by Monday 5/15/23. But nothing....  Okay so I call my AE at Schwab and he looks into it and tells me that Schwab doesn't credit accounts until they receive payment from the issuing banks. Well that makes sense but how can a bank delay making payments... Isn't that default  or at least a violation of the CD agreement. Well as he dug further, it seems this is not rare. According to their contracts, the issuing banks have up to 2 weeks to make interest payments after the coupon date. (Well nobody told me and it's never happen to me, but now I know)... Sounds like a good way for a bank to "float" a lot of money....
So don't be surprised when an interest payment is due or your CD reaches maturity, it may be a few more weeks before you get your money...
Have a nice day.
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Can you tell us which bank that was, I've picked up a couple of banks at Fidelity that I've never heard of before and it never even occurred to me to verify amounts so now I'll need to check. I did add calendar reminders for maturity dates and so far I'm pretty sure they've all been on time.
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05-16-2023, 08:36 PM
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#1382
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 10,512
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^^^^^^
Yes I can tell you... And when I get paid, I'll try to remember to update my "experience"!
First Carolina Bank NC Rocky Mount
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05-17-2023, 09:05 AM
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#1383
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,539
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Discover hi-yield savings at 3.83% APY 3.9% this morning.
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05-17-2023, 03:16 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,520
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Hi All,
Still easing into buying CDs ... today bought Zion Bank 9 month at 5.25%.
Founding listing from Fed re size of banks ... https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/lbr/current/
Rates still creeping up?
Fidelity SPAXX 7 day yield at 4.73% today.
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05-17-2023, 03:23 PM
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#1385
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,142
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenson
Hi All,
Still easing into buying CDs ... today bought Zion Bank 9 month at 5.25%.
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I picked up a couple of those also
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05-17-2023, 03:48 PM
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#1386
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 10,512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Car-Guy
^^^^^^
Yes I can tell you... And when I get paid, I'll try to remember to update my "experience"!
First Carolina Bank NC Rocky Mount
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After a few more calls to my AE at Schwab and I got this resolved late this afternoon. My account has been credited. I'm not sure if the bank made it's CD payment (albeit late) or if Schwab stepped up and made the payment. I guess I'll see in June when the next interest payment is due.
Anyway, just "info" for the CD buyers around here, so if/when you are hit like this, you shouldn't be too surprised.
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05-17-2023, 06:02 PM
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#1387
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Centennial
Posts: 349
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Bought a 12 month Brokerage CD through TD Ameritrade. It is A Charles Schwab Bank CD FDIC Insured with a rate of 5.15% and APY of 5.25% and is non callable
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05-17-2023, 06:36 PM
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#1388
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 459
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenson
Rates still creeping up?
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Doesn't seem to be on the longer term. I've been waiting to pull the trigger on the 3-5 year ones.
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05-17-2023, 07:29 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,349
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I am curious why B of A and Wells decided to get into this game. It occurred to me that they may be collecting cash to get past the debt limit debacle and any extended disruption in credit and the availability of cash. What do others think?
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05-17-2023, 07:35 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Reader
I am curious why B of A and Wells decided to get into this game. It occurred to me that they may be collecting cash to get past the debt limit debacle and any extended disruption in credit and the availability of cash. What do others think?
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What game is that?
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05-17-2023, 07:45 PM
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#1391
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,349
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Free bird
What game is that?
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Offering high yield CD's through brokers, not for their branch or other direct customers.
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05-17-2023, 07:52 PM
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#1392
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Reader
Offering high yield CD's through brokers, not for their branch or other direct customers.
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Wells paid out $1 billion for fraud. I’m told big banks are swimming in money but I don’t know. I’m not an analyst. Maybe they are. Is it unusual for big banks to offer competitive brokered CD rates? I don’t know. I’m new to this.
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05-17-2023, 08:03 PM
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#1393
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Sunny California
Posts: 2,371
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Reader
I am curious why B of A and Wells decided to get into this game. It occurred to me that they may be collecting cash to get past the debt limit debacle and any extended disruption in credit and the availability of cash. What do others think?
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Yes, I think they need money in a hurry and they are paying a premium to get it.
Wells Fargo has a 6 month CD at 2.50% APY and a 1 year for 1.5% APY on their website. I picked up my 9 month brokerage CD yesterday from them for 5.15% APY
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05-17-2023, 08:05 PM
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#1394
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: GUYS MILLS
Posts: 148
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VMFXX 7 day yield 5.15%.
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05-18-2023, 06:37 AM
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#1395
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Feb 2023
Posts: 234
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nice CDs rate bump on Fido to 5.25% for Zion and Hancock Whitney (ex. DSN5H9446 12-months call protected, maturity payment)
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05-18-2023, 06:58 AM
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#1396
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Florida's First Coast
Posts: 7,344
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Zion is B- and Hancock is B+
Not that it matters as they are FDIC insured.
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05-18-2023, 12:45 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,520
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SWR,
Where do you find ratings (and who rates) on these CD issuer banks?
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05-18-2023, 02:12 PM
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#1398
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 10,512
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^^^^^^
You might want to try this one.... https://www.bauerfinancial.com/star-ratings/
I use it before buying any brokered CD's. Is it any good? Heck if I know but I'm using it anyway.
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05-18-2023, 02:34 PM
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#1399
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Limerick
Posts: 5,475
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I bought a $10k 5yr 5.1% CD through Schwab from First Bank of the Lakes in Missouri today. It’s callable in a year, but a year at 5.1% is still not bad.
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05-18-2023, 02:44 PM
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#1400
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Florida's First Coast
Posts: 7,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenson
SWR,
Where do you find ratings (and who rates) on these CD issuer banks?
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There are lots but these are what I use. They are less liberal with theirs.
https://weissratings.com/en/search?o...=1&q=type(bank
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