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Old 08-15-2010, 09:08 PM   #21
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I know no one likes to be lectured to concerning a healthy diet, but I couldn't resist commenting because it's relevant to the thread topic. If bacon prices are really going up substantially, that would be a good reason to quit eating it, as it's a fact that it's not good for us (too much saturated fat). Don't get me wrong, I love bacon, but I have given it up!
Actually, it is probably the salt in bacon that is bad for you, and that just for people who are prone to high blood pressure. And maybe the nitrides?

Meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies evaluating the association of saturated fat with cardiovascular disease -- Siri-Tarino et al., 10.3945/ajcn.2009.27725 -- American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
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Am J Clin Nutr (January 13, 2010). doi:10.3945/ajcn.2009.27725

Background: A reduction in dietary saturated fat has generally been thought to improve cardiovascular health.
Objective: The objective of this meta-analysis was to summarize the evidence related to the association of dietary saturated fat with risk of coronary heart disease (CHD), stroke, and cardiovascular disease (CVD; CHD inclusive of stroke) in prospective epidemiologic studies.
Design: Twenty-one studies identified by searching MEDLINE and EMBASE databases and secondary referencing qualified for inclusion in this study. A random-effects model was used to derive composite relative risk estimates for CHD, stroke, and CVD.
Results: During 5–23 y of follow-up of 347,747 subjects, 11,006 developed CHD or stroke. Intake of saturated fat was not associated with an increased risk of CHD, stroke, or CVD. The pooled relative risk estimates that compared extreme quantiles of saturated fat intake were 1.07 (95% CI: 0.96, 1.19; P = 0.22) for CHD, 0.81 (95% CI: 0.62, 1.05; P = 0.11) for stroke, and 1.00 (95% CI: 0.89, 1.11; P = 0.95) for CVD. Consideration of age, sex, and study quality did not change the results.
Conclusions: A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD. More data are needed to elucidate whether CVD risks are likely to be influenced by the specific nutrients used to replace saturated fat.
Received for publication March 6, 2009. Accepted for publication November 25, 2009.
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:42 PM   #22
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I bought a little iPath Dow Jones UBS Livestock Total Return Sub-Index ETN: NYSE:COW quotes & news - Google Finance on a bit of a lark thinking of a play on beef prices. It's done okay, but now I'm encouraged because it holds cattle and hog futures. Woohoo, eat up all you low-carb people!
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:08 PM   #23
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Yeah, it's 103 here now. I'd think a few slices of bacon on the hood of my car would work well. With aluminum foil under it, of course....
This is why I'm moving to a cold climate when I retire. I have no interest in doing my frying out on the sidewalk. Its just dirty there.
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I know no one likes to be lectured to concerning a healthy diet, but I couldn't resist commenting because it's relevant to the thread topic. If bacon prices are really going up substantially, that would be a good reason to quit eating it, as it's a fact that it's not good for us (too much saturated fat). Don't get me wrong, I love bacon, but I have given it up!
Ah, the health Gestapo has arrived. Bacon, or any other food for that matter, is not bad for you. In excess, it may cause health problems, but so can too much of anything, including water. Moderation is the answer. If we were to quit eating everything that might cause health problems for us, we would all starve.

I am concerned about the price though. It threatens my plan of eating bacon morning, noon and night from 65 years old on to insure I die quickly of a massive heart attack, hopefully while making love to a beautiful 22 year old Japanese girl (don't tell my DW!) at about 89 years of age.

That's was my plan anyway.
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I am concerned about the price though. It threatens my plan of eating bacon morning, noon and night from 65 years old on to insure I die quickly of a massive heart attack, hopefully while making love to a beautiful 22 year old Japanese girl (don't tell my DW!) at about 89 years of age.
That's a good way to minimize end-of-life health care costs...
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I bought a little iPath Dow Jones UBS Livestock Total Return Sub-Index ETN: NYSE:COW quotes & news - Google Finance on a bit of a lark thinking of a play on beef prices. It's done okay, but now I'm encouraged because it holds cattle and hog futures. Woohoo, eat up all you low-carb people!
Looks interesting. But as long as these commodity ETFs issue those PITA K-1s which could sometimes even cause tax issues in an IRA, I'll pass...
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I thought it was a vegetable.
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I thought it was a vegetable.
No, you're thinking of ketchup...
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No, you're thinking of ketchup...
Actually, I was thinking about what to eat for lunch.
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Nothing better than thick-sliced bacon microwaved to a crisp for about 7 minutes.
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I am concerned about the price though. It threatens my plan of eating bacon morning, noon and night from 65 years old on to insure I die quickly of a massive heart attack, hopefully while making love to a beautiful 22 year old Japanese girl (don't tell my DW!) at about 89 years of age.
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That's a good way to minimize end-of-life health care costs...
I wonder if flyfishnevada could skip the bacon, yet can still achieve the goal of a heart attack in the manner he desires. It appears enough to stress his heart.

Wait a minute. If he had to skip the bacon due to concern about price, how the hell he's going to afford the other vice pleasure whatever?
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Looks interesting. But as long as these commodity ETFs issue those PITA K-1s which could sometimes even cause tax issues in an IRA, I'll pass...
Just noticed this reply. COW is an ETN which should report on a 1099 instead of a K1 so I'm believing UBTI isn't an issue. Or am I mistook? Either way I have such a tiny position that I don't think I would reach the $1,000 threshold.
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On a related note, DW was frying bacon. Our new cat, Charley, went absolutely bonkers in demanding some. From the moment it started sizzling he was on his most vocal.

No he did not get any. But later gave him a bit of genuwine bacon fat. Loved it.

Who would have thunk, a bacon fiend cat.
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Actually, they are omnivores like humans. I understand that they are used for dental research because their teeth are similar to ours.
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