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05-04-2023, 02:59 PM
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#101
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Apr 2023
Posts: 81
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Originally Posted by pb4uski
I do recall that during covid that some carriers voluntarily issued refunds because more working from home and less going out resulted in less driving and therefore less claims. Besides, it was good advertising.
On the last part, no governor would have the legal authority to order a private insurer to issue refunds.
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Not the Governor, directly, but his Commissioner of Insurance. There were other states, but NJ is front of mind.
I don't know how to attach the PDF, and am not sure if links are permissible. Apologies to Mods if they are not.
https://www.state.nj.us/dobi/bulletins/blt20_22.pdf
Or, google NJ Department of Insurance Bulletin 20-22
NJ mandated refunds in June of 2020, Insurance Department Bulletin 20-22.
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05-04-2023, 03:51 PM
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#102
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gone traveling
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sarasota, FL & Vermont
Posts: 34,002
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I knew that the Insurance Commissioner would likely have the authority to mandate a refund, but that is not what you wrote.
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05-04-2023, 05:27 PM
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#103
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 1,438
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Just got my bill in the last week for my annual renewal. I've never made a claim on my homeowner's insurance in the whole 33 or so years I've been with my current insurance company. No changes in deductible in years, either. But my rate went up a lot again this year. I live in IL. 21% increase.
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05-04-2023, 06:38 PM
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#104
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,692
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No bill in the mail yet, but I just logged in online and noticed a payment due the end of the month. Seeing that it was low, I assumed it was for half a year. Nope! It's for four months. They've gone with three payments a year (I pay a year in advance), likely to make the actual premium increase seem less painful. Thanks!
Total increase for the next 12 months here in Central Texas: 38%
For comparison, our rate increases the past three years in this house were: 8%, 2%, and 23%.
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05-05-2023, 07:49 AM
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#105
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,460
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Just received our renewal - located in Florida. No claims, 5-6 miles from the beach.
Last year, premium was $1529. This year, $2313. I expected a huge jump, but still, it's disheartening. {sigh}
Asked our agent to run comparison quotes, but I am sure it is a futile attempt. Oh well!
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less stuff, more time
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05-05-2023, 08:08 AM
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#106
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,460
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Originally Posted by simple girl
Just received our renewal - located in Florida. No claims, 5-6 miles from the beach.
Last year, premium was $1529. This year, $2313. I expected a huge jump, but still, it's disheartening. {sigh}
Asked our agent to run comparison quotes, but I am sure it is a futile attempt. Oh well!
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Wow. My agent already got back to me, he actually found me a comparable quote for $1583. Thankfully, our roof is < 10 years old which qualifies us for this company's better rate (Sure). My agent rocks!
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less stuff, more time
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05-05-2023, 10:08 AM
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#107
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 1,438
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My homeowner's insurance provider sent me notices asking if I want to add coverage for other things that aren't covered under my existing expensive homeowner's insurance. So in addition to the deductible, these coverages are going to make a difference when comparing policies. I don't think my roof is covered at all by insurance because it's over 20 years old asphalt shingles, yet I think one of my coverages is roof replacement.
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05-08-2023, 01:03 PM
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#108
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,692
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Quote:
Originally Posted by statsman
No bill in the mail yet, but I just logged in online and noticed a payment due the end of the month. Seeing that it was low, I assumed it was for half a year. Nope! It's for four months. They've gone with three payments a year (I pay a year in advance), likely to make the actual premium increase seem less painful. Thanks!
Total increase for the next 12 months here in Central Texas: 38%
For comparison, our rate increases the past three years in this house were: 8%, 2%, and 23%.
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We received an envelope from the insurance company in the mail over the weekend. Figuring it was the bill for the new premium starting the end of this month, I was surprised to see a notice indicating we were entitled to a refund/credit (in our case, refund) for our current and last billing cycles.
Seems the update information we gave them on our roof that was replaced in July 2021 somehow entitled us to a refund on the past premiums paid. Somewhere between 15-20% of the past two years. The new roof is composite, which was the case for the roof that was replaced. The only difference is the new shingles, with the upgraded felt, is covered under a 50 year warranty. The roof that was replaced was barely two years old, installed when the house was built in 2019.
Despite the refund, I think the upcoming billing cycle still has the 38% increase over what we paid this past year, not the adjusted amount based on the refund.
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05-10-2023, 03:22 PM
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#109
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Laurel, MD
Posts: 7,633
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We had the “survey” (inspection) required for our new policy with The Hartford. What a pain. “Surveyor” was 2 hrs late. she took outside pictures and every room inside along with some measurements. They say it’s needed to accurately assess replacement value. I guess it’ll be worth it if the premium holds up.
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05-10-2023, 03:55 PM
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#110
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,692
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jazz4cash
We had the “survey” (inspection) required for our new policy with The Hartford. What a pain. “Surveyor” was 2 hrs late. she took outside pictures and every room inside along with some measurements. They say it’s needed to accurately assess replacement value. I guess it’ll be worth it if the premium holds up.
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Does sound like a pain. Of course, the paranoid part of me says this would be a perfect way for someone to scam a homeowner by thoroughly, and visually, documenting what is in someone's home.
Sorry. I just received two scam emails this afternoon regarding a payment I made and to call a provided phone number in case the payment is incorrect. My spidey senses are on constant alert these days, even for something that is legit.
Good luck. I hope you get your premium lowered.
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05-12-2023, 10:01 PM
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#111
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 46,889
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Just got my homeowners and wind&hail insurance amounts that I need to pay this year.
Year | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 |
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Homeowners | $480 | $503 | $522 | Wind & hail | $2,071 | $2,374 | $4,117 | Flood | $572 | $684 | $? |
Homeowners didn't go up too much, just a little under 4%.
But I just found out my Louisiana Citizens (wind and hail, hurricanes) tonight.  No prior claims in the 58 years since the house was originally built; good credit, etc. No other options since this is only available through the State of Louisiana.
Flood insurance amount isn't available yet, so I left that one blank.
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05-13-2023, 08:58 AM
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#112
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 6,518
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Yikes W2R that’s double in only 2 years. Ouch!
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05-13-2023, 09:15 AM
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#113
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 46,889
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Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
Yikes W2R that’s double in only 2 years. Ouch!
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Yeah. I haven't paid wind&hail yet and wonder if I even should. Luckily it isn't due until the end of June so I can take some time to settle down and think.
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Happily retired since 2009, at age 61. Best years of my life by far!
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05-17-2023, 07:02 PM
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#114
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 46,889
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W2R
Yeah. I haven't paid wind&hail yet and wonder if I even should. Luckily it isn't due until the end of June so I can take some time to settle down and think.
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OK, I paid it.
Then I went to Vanguard and withdrew $20K since with the new roof, and now this, and more to come, I'm getting stressed out about money. I haven't withdrawn any from my portfolio in several years, but 4% is $64K so it's not like I have to be such a doggone cheapskate.  I think it's in my blood.
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05-17-2023, 08:48 PM
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#115
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,692
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W2R
Yeah. I haven't paid wind&hail yet and wonder if I even should. Luckily it isn't due until the end of June so I can take some time to settle down and think.
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I would have paid it. But then again, we had near tennis ball sized hail hit our roof in April 2021 here in Central Texas. Seriously beat up the basic composite shingles the house builder installed in 2019. Dented the gutters. I'm really surprised the hail that was bouncing off the neighbor's roof into our two side windows off the dining area didn't crack any window glass.
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05-17-2023, 09:02 PM
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#116
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 46,889
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Quote:
Originally Posted by statsman
I would have paid it. But then again, we had near tennis ball sized hail hit our roof in April 2021 here in Central Texas. Seriously beat up the basic composite shingles the house builder installed in 2019. Dented the gutters. I'm really surprised the hail that was bouncing off the neighbor's roof into our two side windows off the dining area didn't crack any window glass.
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How awful! Yeah, with my luck, we'd have a storm like that this year if I hadn't paid my wind-n-hail insurance, for sure.
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Happily retired since 2009, at age 61. Best years of my life by far!
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05-24-2023, 01:54 PM
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#117
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,151
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Just got our home insurance renewal.
Premium increase of 8 percent.
Realistic given the increase in the cost of construction materials and labor.
I was expecting 12 percent.
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05-24-2023, 02:43 PM
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#118
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Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: San Diego
Posts: 13,635
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Just got our bill. 13% jump in homeowners.
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06-06-2023, 05:05 AM
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#119
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 19,626
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Just got our new home insurance premium, up 24% from $1687 in 2022 to $2085 for 2023. Property taxes projected to increase 12%. Inflation has been a PITA over the past year...
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06-06-2023, 09:58 AM
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#120
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 35,318
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Yep, ours is up about that maybe a bit more - 30%? Agent already emailed that they had shopped around and this was the best offer right now.
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