NateW
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I am a new resident of Frederick County, Virginia as of October 8th (2019). The house I bought was a cash purchase, so there is no mortgage company involved or escrowing. Yesterday I received from the County a real estate overdue tax notice which included a 10% late fee and interest for a month (about $120 over the tax due amount) and threatened to take collection action.
I promptly called the County treasurer asked them for what period this reminder notice was for and noted I closed on the property in late September and that I never received a tax bill and asked her to explain the late fee. The clerk said a bill for July through December 2019 real estate taxes was sent to my address on October 31st and taxes were due Dec. 5th. I asked who the bill was addressed to. She checked and it was the previous owner! I then commented that I never saw the bill and most likely the post office forwarded it to the previous owner, who moved out of county.
I said I would promptly pay the taxes if the late fee was removed. She refused and said that even if I do not receive a bill, it is my responsibility to pay on time (to know when the due date is or find out if I am not sure) and any penalties and interest if paid late. Really? I thought the deed transfer would initiate a tax bill to reflect the current property owner. I was expecting to get a tax bill, so I never thought about it beyond that.
I first checked my HUD-1 and I was issued a credit for July through September taxes to cover the previous owner's share when I was billed for the second installment.
I then checked the Code of Virginia and found the following:
The County must send a tax bill by mail to the the person who owned the property as of the first of the year. The bill must be sent 14 days before it is due (The County did this and it was the previous owner). But in another section the following appears:
"In the event a transfer of real property ownership occurs after January 1 of a tax year and a real estate tax bill has been mailed pursuant to §§ 58.1-3281 and 58.1-3912 (mailed to the previous owner), the treasurer or other appropriate local official designated by ordinance of the local governing body in jurisdictions not having a treasurer, upon ascertaining that a property transfer has occurred, may invalidate a bill sent to the prior owner and reissue the bill to the new owner as permitted by § 58.1-3912, and no penalty for failure to pay any tax for any such assessment shall be imposed if the tax is paid within two weeks after the notice thereof is mailed." (Notice that the word "may" is used here).
And in the next paragraph of the Code the following appears, in part:
"Penalty and interest for failure to file a return or to pay a tax shall not be imposed if such failure was not the fault of the taxpayer, or was the fault of the commissioner of revenue or the treasurer, as the case may be."
So my take on this is the County needs to send me a tax bill in my name and without any penalties and If I don't pay it in 2 weeks I then can be assessed a late fee.
I checked my tax account on the County web site and the bill that appears is still in the previous owner's name.
Looking for guidance from the collective wisdom of the group on how to handle this. Should I just suck it up and pay the penalty and be thankful I was able to ER at 59 AND purchase a new house with cash before selling my old house (with plenty of funds to spare)? But this irks me the County staff takes this punative attitude without proper billing.
Thanks.
I promptly called the County treasurer asked them for what period this reminder notice was for and noted I closed on the property in late September and that I never received a tax bill and asked her to explain the late fee. The clerk said a bill for July through December 2019 real estate taxes was sent to my address on October 31st and taxes were due Dec. 5th. I asked who the bill was addressed to. She checked and it was the previous owner! I then commented that I never saw the bill and most likely the post office forwarded it to the previous owner, who moved out of county.
I said I would promptly pay the taxes if the late fee was removed. She refused and said that even if I do not receive a bill, it is my responsibility to pay on time (to know when the due date is or find out if I am not sure) and any penalties and interest if paid late. Really? I thought the deed transfer would initiate a tax bill to reflect the current property owner. I was expecting to get a tax bill, so I never thought about it beyond that.
I first checked my HUD-1 and I was issued a credit for July through September taxes to cover the previous owner's share when I was billed for the second installment.
I then checked the Code of Virginia and found the following:
The County must send a tax bill by mail to the the person who owned the property as of the first of the year. The bill must be sent 14 days before it is due (The County did this and it was the previous owner). But in another section the following appears:
"In the event a transfer of real property ownership occurs after January 1 of a tax year and a real estate tax bill has been mailed pursuant to §§ 58.1-3281 and 58.1-3912 (mailed to the previous owner), the treasurer or other appropriate local official designated by ordinance of the local governing body in jurisdictions not having a treasurer, upon ascertaining that a property transfer has occurred, may invalidate a bill sent to the prior owner and reissue the bill to the new owner as permitted by § 58.1-3912, and no penalty for failure to pay any tax for any such assessment shall be imposed if the tax is paid within two weeks after the notice thereof is mailed." (Notice that the word "may" is used here).
And in the next paragraph of the Code the following appears, in part:
"Penalty and interest for failure to file a return or to pay a tax shall not be imposed if such failure was not the fault of the taxpayer, or was the fault of the commissioner of revenue or the treasurer, as the case may be."
So my take on this is the County needs to send me a tax bill in my name and without any penalties and If I don't pay it in 2 weeks I then can be assessed a late fee.
I checked my tax account on the County web site and the bill that appears is still in the previous owner's name.
Looking for guidance from the collective wisdom of the group on how to handle this. Should I just suck it up and pay the penalty and be thankful I was able to ER at 59 AND purchase a new house with cash before selling my old house (with plenty of funds to spare)? But this irks me the County staff takes this punative attitude without proper billing.
Thanks.
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