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COVID-19 Relief Act and Spending Bill is signed.
12-27-2020, 08:44 PM
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COVID-19 Relief Act and Spending Bill is signed.
OK - the bill was signed tonight. You can now look forward to more stimulus.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/allbusi...h=37d08b38653b
Also ends surprise medical billing.
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12-27-2020, 10:04 PM
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Ending of medical billing surprise is excellent.
With the bill being more than 5,500-page long, I wonder if some new surprises may slip in.
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12-28-2020, 04:08 AM
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Looks like the market will be pleased, at least to start today.
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12-28-2020, 12:03 PM
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In our case....since we don't qualify for the checks.
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Originally Posted by audreyh1
OK - the bill was signed tonight. You can now look forward to paying for more stimulus.
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12-28-2020, 12:13 PM
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Didn't they lower the income limits this time around?
I read Michael B's link and it doesn't really speak to that.
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12-28-2020, 12:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amethyst
In our case....since we don't qualify for the checks.
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You edited my quote to change the meaning. Please don’t do that without something obvious like FIFY.
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12-28-2020, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by audreyh1
You edited my quote to change the meaning. Please don’t do that without something obvious like FIFY.
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I get your point... and in fact some of us are getting and paying and some of us are just paying.. what a world!
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12-28-2020, 12:59 PM
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The end of surprise medical billing addresses one more absurdity we Americans have had to put up with from our unfair medical non-system. Good riddance.
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12-28-2020, 01:17 PM
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I would criticize the pork included within the 5500 page bill however porky likes pork and he might visit.
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12-28-2020, 01:23 PM
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I'd rather have the end of surprise medical billing than the stimulus.
Guess can't really complain because both are included .
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12-28-2020, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easysurfer
I'd rather have the end of surprise medical billing than the stimulus.
Guess can't really complain because both are included .
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Remember they can still bill you, they just can't make it a surprise..
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12-28-2020, 01:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivinsfan
Remember they can still bill you, they just can't make it a surprise..
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How is that supposed to work? Will we now start seeing ALL charges up front? If so, that’s enormous improvement over the ridiculous non-free market we face now, where no one knows any prices until the service is completed.
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12-28-2020, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Markola
How is that supposed to work? Will we now start seeing ALL charges up front? If so, that’s enormous improvement over the ridiculous non-free market we face now, where no one knows any prices until the service is completed.
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They forgot to put that part in the bill...
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12-28-2020, 01:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easysurfer
I'd rather have the end of surprise medical billing than the stimulus.
Guess can't really complain because both are included .
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I know I don't really NEED it, and that really I am the one who will have to pay for it (indirectly), but I can't help it - - I am still insanely happy about getting the stimulus. The idea of having a big wad of money just show up in my checking account like it did last time, totally floats my boat.
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12-29-2020, 06:13 AM
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Does anyone know how to make text modifications (bolding, italics) show up in quotes? In an earlier post, I managed to mis-quote Audrey by adding two words, which I thought I had italicized. But my modification didn't take:
In our case....since we don't qualify for the checks.
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Originally Posted by audreyh1 View Post
OK - the bill was signed tonight. You can now look forward to paying for more stimulus.
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What I meant it to look like was "In our case....since we don't qualify for the checks. 'OK - the bill was signed tonight. You can now look forward to paying for more stimulus."'
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12-29-2020, 06:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amethyst
Does anyone know how to make text modifications (bolding, italics) show up in quotes?
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Quotes are automatically italicized, so enclosing anything in italics within a quote does nothing. Bolding works (see above).
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12-29-2020, 06:25 AM
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Quotes are already italicized - but even adding words and bolding would make it look like I had originally posted it and you were emphasizing part of something I had already said.
Better to post your own version in reply.
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12-29-2020, 06:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amethyst
Does anyone know how to make text modifications (bolding, italics) show up in quotes? In an earlier post, I managed to mis-quote Audrey by adding two words, which I thought I had italicized. But my modification didn't take:
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Italics, as mentioned, are default. Best to strike-thru and add "FIFY" in the post so it's clear to all that you've made a change, since font highlights such as italics, bold, tend to mean only to emphasize the original text, and aren't clear to a reader that they are a re-write by the quote-r.
And yeah, in tricky situations, easier to quote straight up and then reply with your own. different wording if needed.
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12-29-2020, 06:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivinsfan
Remember they can still bill you, they just can't make it a surprise..
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I suppose this is tongue in cheek, but that’s not quite how it works.
The insurer and provider have to battle it out. The provider can no longer turn around and bill the patient for the excess. The patient is not responsible in the cases covered by the law.
The patient can sign a waiver up front to allow out of network billing. So don’t do that unless you are deliberately accepting an out of network service.*
Many states already have this protection, some for a very long time, so it must be working at some level.
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Originally Posted by Markola
How is that supposed to work? Will we now start seeing ALL charges up front? If so, that’s enormous improvement over the ridiculous non-free market we face now, where no one knows any prices until the service is completed.
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Exactly - although it doesn’t quite work that way as I explained above.
*Balance billing waiver form from Texas Department of Insurance (TDI): https://www.tdi.texas.gov/forms/lhlifehealth/ah025.pdf
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