Fidelity Replacement Cards with Elan

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I'm assuming there are others here that have both the Fidelity Amex with 2% Rewards and the Visa with 1.5% Rewards. I logged into my Fidelity account and it looks like I'm getting 2 new replacement Visa cards. One with 2% Rewards that replaces the old Amex and second Visa with 1.5% Rewards for the old Fidelity Visa. This second Visa accrues at 1.5% up to the first $15,000 and then 2% thereafter. The two Rewards accounts are separate so that means I need to use the 1.5% Visa until I get to the 5000pt threshold for cashing out before I switch over exclusively to using the 2% Rewards Visa card. I wish they had combined the two accounts into just one 2% Fidelity Rewards Visa. It would have made the transition so much easier. :facepalm:
 
I believe the amex 2% was replaced by a visa 2% Any way I have both the visa 2% and the visa 1.5%, I stopped using the 1.5% when they came out with the 2%. I was notified they are sending a new card for the 1.5%. Will not be using it. Won't even activate it.
 
I'm getting both cards as well. I also intend to shift exclusively to the 2% now that it's a Visa vs. the former AmEx. A bit off-topic, but somewhat related. Now that I'm newly RE I was expecting to step through some of my accumulated dormant credit cards and actually cancel a few. I understand the implications in regards to wanting to retain oldest trade-lines, as well as the potential it has to increase my utilization ratios, and ultimately drop my credit score ever so slightly - but my score has plenty of room to drop and still be excellent so the financial de-cluttering to me has value. It also might make me more open to chasing some new credit card sign-up bonuses that I've been passing on. I never previously had any problems qualifying for CC's, but I had 6 figure income and perfect payment histories. What has been people's experience getting new CC's shifting from 6 digit salary to lower (5-digit) post employment income levels?
 
I also saw my new VISA numbers (the last four) when I logged into Fidelity today, and I saw the credit limit which was ~$1K less for some reason. It was an oddball number too, like $20,007.99. How weird is that!

I got notice that my Fidelty AMEX card would quit working on July 22nd.
 
I also saw my new VISA numbers (the last four) when I logged into Fidelity today, and I saw the credit limit which was ~$1K less for some reason. It was an oddball number too, like $20,007.99. How weird is that!

I got notice that my Fidelty AMEX card would quit working on July 22nd.
Strange. Could that have been some sore of "available credit limit"?

USAA just changed my MC to a Visa, and they started booking my cc transactions under the new Visa number at least one week before mailing it to me, I didn't activate for another week but that didn't stop them. I use it for automatic billing, the old card is now cancelled, but I noticed today I forgot to update one account - but they're accepting the charge anyway.
 
Strange. Could that have been some sore of "available credit limit"?

USAA just changed my MC to a Visa, and they started booking my cc transactions under the new Visa number at least one week before mailing it to me, I didn't activate for another week but that didn't stop them. I use it for automatic billing, the old card is now cancelled, but I noticed today I forgot to update one account - but they're accepting the charge anyway.

Who knows! Don't have any other cards with Citi, so I don't get running into such a limit.

I happened to retrieve a set of credit reports recently, and noticed my credit utilization is 6%. Maybe they think that's too low? Who knows!

I had actually raised my Fidelity AMEX credit limit from $16K to $21K a few months ago in anticipation of this switch. It's a card we use heavily. $20K limit will be fine - it's just odd!
 
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When I logged into Fidelity this morning I also saw that my new Visa card is already on the account, showing the last four. I was even able to go in and set things up, like autopay, email alerts, etc.

The credit limit is exactly the same as the Amex card. I also got a letter in the mail today reminding me that any automatic payments made from the old Amex card would only be honored until July 21.
 
I never previously had any problems qualifying for CC's, but I had 6 figure income and perfect payment histories. What has been people's experience getting new CC's shifting from 6 digit salary to lower (5-digit) post employment income levels?

I've applied for several and haven't had a problem. I most recently applied for a Citicard AAdvantage card last night and got approved w/ $10000 credit limit no problem (got DW the same card a month ago too). I don't even think they asked what I did for a living, just what my income was (I usually say $40k or $50k which is roughly what my AGI is each year).

I'm a big fan of the CC sign up bonus game and the AAdvantage card is #4 for us in 2016. :)
 
I also saw my new VISA numbers (the last four) when I logged into Fidelity today, and I saw the credit limit which was ~$1K less for some reason. It was an oddball number too, like $20,007.99. How weird is that!

I got notice that my Fidelty AMEX card would quit working on July 22nd.

What's happening to the Fidelity AMEX card? Is it going away?
 
I never previously had any problems qualifying for CC's, but I had 6 figure income and perfect payment histories. What has been people's experience getting new CC's shifting from 6 digit salary to lower (5-digit) post employment income levels?
No problem even though I declare myself as retired, specify investment income if asked, and my income is self-reported. I can always back it up with the prior year tax return, but that has never been requested. My income didn't drop compared to my working years. But there is no way for the credit bureaus to know what my income is.
 
It also might make me more open to chasing some new credit card sign-up bonuses that I've been passing on. I never previously had any problems qualifying for CC's, but I had 6 figure income and perfect payment histories. What has been people's experience getting new CC's shifting from 6 digit salary to lower (5-digit) post employment income levels?

No problem either getting new or raising limits within reason. I learned that I should have gotten approved for a home equity loan before I retired. Still got one just not as much as I would have liked to.
 
News to me too although I'm too quick on the shred button :LOL:. I wonder if there are some nice offers out for replacement AmEx cards as I'm sure they want to keep me as a customer...I've spent a small fortune in the last year as we've remodeled the house.
 
..What has been people's experience getting new CC's shifting from 6 digit salary to lower (5-digit) post employment income levels?

My income can vary quite a bit from one year to the next so I did an experiment one year and put a really low income on a credit card application and it was turned down. If it's a card I want then I enter a more realistic number for income and I have never been turned down since. It turns out there is no income verification for credit cards or even for new car loans for that matter. When I bought a new car last summer the salesperson told me there would be no income verification. The approval would be based on my credit score.
 
Just walked to pick up the mail, nice package with two new cards. I'm so happy to be rid of the morons at FIA!

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I had one Fidelity MasterCard and one Fidelity Visa, both 1.5% cash back but via different programs. I had a problem connecting the first one to my account, got the second one working, and then fixed the problem with the first card (couldn't connect to a trust account). Looks like both changed into Visa cards. I'm only seeing info for 2% cash back for both cards, so hopefully that means I won't have to get a new card for that.
 
News to me too although I'm too quick on the shred button :LOL:. I wonder if there are some nice offers out for replacement AmEx cards as I'm sure they want to keep me as a customer...I've spent a small fortune in the last year as we've remodeled the house.

Not special (exclusive) offers, but you may be preapproved for the Amex Blue Cash card.
 
Just walked to pick up the mail, nice package with two new cards. I'm so happy to be rid of the morons at FIA!

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I'm also hoping for improvement over FIA. Apple Pay is supported. I'm waiting to see if they have the email alerts I like to get, these alerts were noticeably missing from FIA.

Hmm - I think I can find that out now since I was able to access my online account.
 
Yes it is!

You will get a VISA later this month or early next month.

Are you missing some important mail?


Not that I'm aware of. I already have the Fidelity Elan Visa card, so I'm assuming I won't be getting another one. Why are they eliminating their AMEX card? Did they just end their deal with FIA?


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Not that I'm aware of. I already have the Fidelity Elan Visa card, so I'm assuming I won't be getting another one. Why are they eliminating their AMEX card? Did they just end their deal with FIA?


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Yes, they are ending their relationship with FIA.

They started offering the Elan card in Jan of this year I think. This change only affects folks with cards issued by FIA card services.
 
Yes, they are ending their relationship with FIA.

They started offering the Elan card in Jan of this year I think. This change only affects folks with cards issued by FIA card services.

I'm also hoping for improvement over FIA. Apple Pay is supported. I'm waiting to see if they have the email alerts I like to get, these alerts were noticeably missing from FIA.

Hmm - I think I can find that out now since I was able to access my online account.

When I logged into Fidelity this morning I also saw that my new Visa card is already on the account, showing the last four. I was even able to go in and set things up, like autopay, email alerts, etc.

The credit limit is exactly the same as the Amex card. I also got a letter in the mail today reminding me that any automatic payments made from the old Amex card would only be honored until July 21.

I saw braumeister's post and logged into my Fidelity AMEX account, and I also saw the Fidelity Visa account is set up for me (I have not got my cards yet).

As audreyh1 was hoping, email alerts are now part of the set up option. Yes!!! I have this on my Amazon Visa (only 1% on most stuff though), and I really like the feedback - I have it set to email me on every single charge.

I was not happy with FIA, their fraud detection process was lousy* and I complained bitterly to them. So hopefully, this new group is better all around, looks like a good start (though it would not take a limit of > than $0.00, had to make it > $0.01 - weird).

* to clarify, FIA apparently detected some fraud, so that's good, but they handled it so very poorly. One time, they shut my card down two days before they alerted me. Then, their phone call included a number to call that didn't appear on the card or their web site (phishing attack?). When I tried to check, I could only get to an auto system that wanted me to verify the last 3 charges. Well, I couldn't do that w/o checking against my statement, as one sounded like a duplicate charge (it wasn't it was just delayed about 3 weeks). But I was also shut out of my account, so I couldn't check. That left me in a catch-22 with their system. Long hold time once I finally got past their robots.

Then they claimed their system was better than email alerts. Sorry, no. I would have caught it before them (and one of their triggers was a legitimate purchase I made).

-ERD50
 
I was not happy with FIA, their fraud detection process was lousy* and I complained bitterly to them. So hopefully, this new group is better all around, looks like a good start (though it would not take a limit of > than $0.00, had to make it > $0.01 - weird).

* to clarify, FIA apparently detected some fraud, so that's good, but they handled it so very poorly. One time, they shut my card down two days before they alerted me. Then, their phone call included a number to call that didn't appear on the card or their web site (phishing attack?). When I tried to check, I could only get to an auto system that wanted me to verify the last 3 charges. Well, I couldn't do that w/o checking against my statement, as one sounded like a duplicate charge (it wasn't it was just delayed about 3 weeks). But I was also shut out of my account, so I couldn't check. That left me in a catch-22 with their system. Long hold time once I finally got past their robots.

Then they claimed their system was better than email alerts. Sorry, no. I would have caught it before them (and one of their triggers was a legitimate purchase I made).

-ERD50
Yes, I had a poor experience with fraud detection too, that left me very disappointed.

We were driving cross country over Xmas holidays and had a rejection at Costco which was odd because I'd called in a travel alert. No rejection earlier in the day, but the Costco checkout was >$100 which might have made the difference. But I get no phone call from FIA after the rejection which is odd.

So after we check in to the hotel, I log into my account and see there are a couple of ~$800 charges pending from Victoria's Secret in New York, I think. The charges were from the prior day. Hmm - could that be why? Well I've got to let them know those weren't my charges and to have them removed and the card reissued.

I called the number on the card. That person was convinced they couldn't do anything about the charges while they were still pending. Say what? I knew better. At least that person gave me the number for the FIA fraud department.

And at least the person at the fraud line knew what they were doing, and dealt with the charges right away. No funny business. But no explanation about why I had the rejection at Costco, and why I was never contacted to verify charges afterwards. They could see that that transaction had been rejected, but saw no reason for it.

But what annoyed me the most, was I could have been alerted to the details on these charges immediately, if I'd been able to set up a "card not present" transaction alert and "credit card transaction exceeded $XXX" alert like I have set up on EVERY OTHER CARD! And I would have known before attempting to use my card at Costco. The lack of these alerts was always so frustrating to me. If anything "interesting" happens on any of my other cards I get an email the second the charge occurs. BofA and Chase and Amex are particularly good about this.

I was lucky, I happened to log in to see what was going on after the mysterious rejection. The charges posted, but were credited immediately, and they mailed new cards to our destination. About a month later I get a letter saying that the charges were still under investigation, so I was technically still on the hook. Finally, a month after that, I got a letter saying the matter was closed and the credits would stand. I'd never had this drawn out process to close the matter before either.

BTW I'd had another case where the card had been compromised in one of those large multi card compromises. In those cases they don't notify you, but reissue and send you new cards and your old card will continue working for two weeks. And you don't find out unless you happen to make a large purchase and get a rejection, in which case you have to call in and hop through a bunch of security questions to get the charge to go through. Or you log in and notice your card number has changed. But in this case FIA didn't handle it any differently than the other issuers, so I never blamed them for that, even when it had us a bit panicked when we were trying to transact a trade-in and upgrade on two pairs of expensive binoculars within a limited time. At least we got it through after many minutes on the phone.
 
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I'm assuming there are others here that have both the Fidelity Amex with 2% Rewards and the Visa with 1.5% Rewards. I logged into my Fidelity account and it looks like I'm getting 2 new replacement Visa cards. One with 2% Rewards that replaces the old Amex and second Visa with 1.5% Rewards for the old Fidelity Visa. This second Visa accrues at 1.5% up to the first $15,000 and then 2% thereafter. The two Rewards accounts are separate so that means I need to use the 1.5% Visa until I get to the 5000pt threshold for cashing out before I switch over exclusively to using the 2% Rewards Visa card. I wish they had combined the two accounts into just one 2% Fidelity Rewards Visa. It would have made the transition so much easier. :facepalm:

I also have the Fidelity 2% AMEX and 1.5% VISA. Only reason I have the VISA is for merchants who don't accept AMEX. So now, they're sending two VISAs. I called Fidelity a couple weeks ago and explained that I have no need for two VISA cards. The rep said to call Elan after the cards are issued and they should be able to consolidate credit limits and rewards balances onto the 2% card, and cancel the 1.5% card. Key word is "should." I got the distinct impression he wasn't really sure. But I'll give it whirl after the cards arrive.
 
Yes, I had a poor experience with fraud detection too, that left me very disappointed.


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After Home Depot gave my card number away I dealt with their incompetent fraud department.

I informed them of several fraudulent charges after receiving my new card. They caught one but failed to catch two other identical charges.

I'm OK with having to dispute the first charges, several months later I'm not. According to several fraud team members that old card number would always be associated with me! No amount of canceling would ever remove the relationship. I'm glad I'm leaving, no more relationship. I never got an answer as to why, sure sounds like a data model issue to me.
 
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I was not happy with FIA, their fraud detection process was lousy* and I complained bitterly to them. So hopefully, this new group is better all around, looks like a good start (though it would not take a limit of > than $0.00, had to make it > $0.01 - weird).

I have to agree.

I attempted to purchase tickets from a large foreign airline several times only to have the charges rejected. :( So, using my little brain, I called them ahead of time and said "Look, in a few minutes I am going to buy tickets to Pottsylvania on RustyCrate Airways, can you please arrange to not reject the charge?" Sorry, no can do. Get rejected first then call was the answer. (Meaning I would have to reenter much of the reservation information, select seats, etc. all over again. Not so good.) So, I used my Costco Amex with gives the same 2% on travel expenses. (And soon will be 3%!!):dance:
 
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