FIRE:Is It Intelligence or Determination

We were just informed last night that Sarah got a new job doing security work with a govt. contracting company. Pay is ~$20/hour with bennies!

Not at the pizza shop anymore.

And they are great with making sure she can have the weekends off when needed for Reserve duty.:dance:
 
Congrats to Sarah on landing a great job! And to Walt for helping her get there.


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Wow Walt. Just wow. I already loved your amazing letter, but now I feel like I'm going to be rooting for my name-sharer to make her way in the world even better with your help. She sounds awesome, and I already knew you were, from your letter to her. :)

What a wonderful gift, to have folks like you in her life.


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We were just informed last night that Sarah got a new job doing security work with a govt. contracting company. Pay is ~$20/hour with bennies!

Not at the pizza shop anymore.

And they are great with making sure she can have the weekends off when needed for Reserve duty.:dance:

That is excellent news.
 
For me it started as fear of not being able to keep my high paying career job and later became desire for freedom. Also watching my portfolio grow was almost a hobby. I was very motivated to save and add more to the pot
When it (portfolio) started to make almost as much as I did working on good market years.....it was pretty exciting.
 
This is a good thread...

I think it's a big part personality: being OK with deferred gratification, going away from the herd as it pertains to having the best clothes, cars, big houses, etc. Certainly some of us can do those things and still RE, but the majority are likely this way.

Luck can factor in in some cases, but to say it's a cause or determining factor is a stretch. There are plenty of people "lucky" enough to have the means to RE, but many don't because they make bad choices along the way. Conversely, there are many who don't have luck falling their way, but they make good choices and sacrifice along the way to get there.

Intelligence - I think this can factor in because your capacity to understand compound interest and other important mathematical concepts is somewhat important. Not a determining factor, however, as you can simply push the "I believe" button, or make enough money as a skilled tradesman and hire a financial professional to manage your money at an early age. You don't have to be a genius to weld, but you have to be a good welder! On the flip side, you have countless examples of extremely bright doctors who start making their big bucks in their early thirties, but because of their personality they are always buying expensive cars and trying to keep up with the herd of doctors. "White Coat Investor" is a popular blog devoted to teaching medical professionals, all likely very intelligent, how to retire early because the majority of them cannot.

So, to me, the biggest driver is personality. Personality factors into determination, work ethic, and willingness to defer gratification and steer away from the herd. That's a bigger factor than minor ones such as luck and intelligence, IMO.
 
Funny, we got married in 1979, after knowing each other only 2 weeks. Paycheck to paycheck for the first 7 years. Finally, a little luck. I knew someone who knew someone to get my husband a job with mega corp. He has been there (30) years. 2 kids and 35 years later we are FIRE. I am retired 4 years now. DH retires in January. Slow and steady got us to FIRE. We sat at home for the first (10) years of our marriage while everyone (especially family) went and did trips, bought new cars etc. We always put at least 10% in the 401K.

I am just a high school graduate but I did take math. Pretty simple, you can't spend more than you take in and save. My husband has gotten his Master's in business. All education paid for by GI bill and work. Funny he has never done any of our financial stuff. That is all me. I have educated myself in the stock market etc. It has paid off.

My family especially, all say they wish they were more like us...but they don't seem to remember we sat at home all those years while they were out and about spending money.

I have often thought about going to get a degree just to prove to my daughter that I have what it takes to go and get a degree. I then look at our bank account and think Nah. I think she gets it now though. You don't have to be above average intelligence to FIRE. Just don't spend more than you make and save regularly. Compounding interest has a way of making it all worth while so that you can live like no others tomorrow.

I am inspired by all those on this forum who have the same mindset, genius or not. :)


Just my 2 cents.
 

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