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01-08-2020, 11:28 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
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It's been a gradual process for us. I can't say we were ever super frugal, but we were definitely careful with our money, lived below our means, saved a lot, invested carefully and didn't take on long-term debt other than mortgage.
We still do those things, but with our annual income going up so much we've definitely loosened the purse strings. We still seek value for quality - but at a higher quality level, we eventually started traveling first class much of the time, we enjoy higher end hotel rooms and will often upgrade and use nicer hotels, we buy whatever we want for groceries (don't eat out much unless traveling). We don't skimp on travel overall. And we gift way more than we ever did before.
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01-08-2020, 12:38 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: The 850
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A few small things to share the abundance without putting yourself at risk, you could stop at any time.
1. Upgrade what you consume-no need for Natty light anymore 
2. Tip bigger when you go out
3. Tip for things you haven't before
4. Give holiday and or random gifts for your service people - trash, UPS/FedEx/mail
5. Get a lawn service
6. Anonymously payoff someone's layaway at Wal Mart
There are plenty of creative ideas in the "Blow The Dough" threads
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01-08-2020, 12:57 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Denver
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I think there's more to this issue than just frugality. You current standard of living defines you to a certain extent. Your family & friends have come to see you as living this lifestyle. So, when you 'upgrade' it, you've changed - not only to yourself, but to your loved ones. And I think this is an issue that isn't readily acknowledged. "What will they say?"
It isn't dissimilar to the issue that most of us feel (at different levels) when we ER while others we know & love are still working.
Take small steps - lots of great suggestions here, but the one that appeals most to me is to upgrade what you're already doing. Traveling? Stay at a better hotel or upgrade the seat class. Eating out? try more expensive restaurants - maybe you'll like them more. Better wine? At the upper end - a more expensive car.
Small steps will ensure that you don't overdo it. Good luck.
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01-08-2020, 01:01 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Consuption sounds like a frightening activity in addition to being an expensive one.
PS. If it is not worth posting in the thread of "Couples - What do you fight about most?", then I assume that it is not really that bad.
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01-08-2020, 01:02 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: The Great Wide Open
Posts: 3,432
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Do what DW did back at Thanksgiving, by spiking the ball. She bought a Mercedes.
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01-08-2020, 01:28 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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I just thought I better post in this thread rather than just read it.
OP has gotten some good, useful advice here
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01-08-2020, 01:31 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Check into a dementia ward - $3500 a week. I'm saving my stash so I don't bankrupt DW.
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01-08-2020, 01:45 PM
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Administrator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by travelover
Check into a dementia ward - $3500 a week. I'm saving my stash so I don't bankrupt DW.
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So, when you do reach that point you’re counting on her spending all that money on you? Hope if works out that way.
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01-08-2020, 02:19 PM
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Location: Champaign
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sojourner
I could understand not getting much pleasure out of first class on a short domestic flight, but on long overseas flights? Those lie-flat seats are so comfy (compared to cramped coach seats), and the whole first class experience (food, drinks, service) is hands-down better than coach. Way better.
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Right, for overseas flights and extended vacation accommodations, I agree.
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01-08-2020, 02:33 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Fair Lawn
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DW and I were on the same page during our accumulation phase. Now that we are both retired, we are in wonderful financial position. We are spending some more than than usual, but we can easily afford to spend even more....like a 3rd or even 4th week-long vacation.
Alas, since I do the finances DW is simply not convinced we can do so. We're not exactly suffering, so no sympathy needed, but yes I'd like to spend some more.
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01-08-2020, 02:39 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 34,747
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Right - increase tips. That’s something DH and I started to do.
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01-08-2020, 02:43 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
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01-08-2020, 02:49 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Seattle
Posts: 70
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hdhead
Wife and I have lived a fairly frugal life. Have always saved maximum for retirement. Well, we are there and now with pension, SS, dividends, company stock, and multiple IRAs and 401k’s. I am overwhelmed with the nest egg and how to spend it. I feel stuck in this frugality mindset and can’t seem to spend more. I know it is a silly problem but for me it is real. Anyone else have this issue or ideas?
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Really, you don’t know how to spend money and enjoy life?
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01-08-2020, 03:45 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelB
So, when you do reach that point you’re counting on her spending all that money on you? Hope if works out that way.
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Do you think she'll just drop me off in the sticks like an unwanted dog?
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01-08-2020, 03:45 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 2,345
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For me, there's always a better projector, better audio/video gear, better dive gear, better travel, better kitchen appliances, more jewelry for my wife, better camera gear, more lenses, and ALWAYS better cars.
I knew an ER couple once, and they replaced all of their stuff when it was old or something better came along. And they got rid of the old stuff so their place wasn't cluttered.
I'll +1 on first/business class upgrades if you travel long-distance.
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01-08-2020, 03:59 PM
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Dryer sheet aficionado
Join Date: Oct 2016
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Help me spend money
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Originally Posted by dcoy
Really, you don’t know how to spend money and enjoy life?
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I really do enjoy my life, don’t really need more or better stuff for enjoyment. We are living far from destitute. Snowbird with 2 homes. Cars and jewels do little for me or wifey. I did just made a decision today to remodel the Florida kitchen without second guessing myself so I guess that is a good start to more spending.
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01-08-2020, 04:31 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Southern California
Posts: 3,967
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We still spend far less than Firecalc tells us we can spend but we don’t have anything we really want to spend the money on that we aren’t already buying.
But when things break down, and all of a sudden we need a new washing machine, or a new roof, or a major car repair, we no longer sweat those things. We can easily afford them so we just happily pay what we need to pay to keep everything working. There is a certain peace of mind of knowing that no matter what surprises are thrown at us we are covered. It lets us sleep at night. To me that’s worth more than any material purchases we may be holding back on.
We did both buy Teslas in the past year though. That was definitely a splurge for both of us.
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01-08-2020, 04:35 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 261
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Agree- we don't need more "stuff" - in fact we need to sell "stuff" to enjoy life
But i understand the dilemma .
DH and I are use to a frugal lifestyle and we are still under-spend by quite a lot.
Wasting money does not make me happy!
So I recently joined a community non profit board and will donate more $$.
and More $$ to our church
We also plan to gift more $$ to family in next 5 years.
So grateful to be here !!
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01-08-2020, 04:44 PM
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#39
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Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,389
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Buy a boat. I have never owned one, but everyone I have talked to over the years that has , they all said a boat is nothing but a great big hole in which to pour money into.
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01-08-2020, 05:17 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UnrealizedPotential
Buy a boat. I have never owned one, but everyone I have talked to over the years that has , they all said a boat is nothing but a great big hole in which to pour money into.
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In addition to that, if you really want to pi$$ away money, buy an airplane and get your pilots license.
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