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05-26-2008, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by HFWR
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That's where I'm very fortunate. Three years ago I took advantage of our Co-Op's offer to sign up for wind generated power at $0.08 KWh. The cost hasn't changed more than a tenth of a cent during those three years. If I'd remained on the standard plan I'd be paying close to $0.10 KWh right now. Still a relative bargain, but I prefer what I've got - for obvious reasons.
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05-27-2008, 02:29 PM
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Yeah, in NH we paid $4700 last winter .... 4k in gas, 700 in wood for the stove. Thinking I need to add a second wood stove to the second chimney. NO WAY I am locking into a pre-buy at these prices.
The geothermal at the lake was $1500 (electric) and 3 cords of "free" wood (taken from the lot).
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05-27-2008, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by REWahoo
That's where I'm very fortunate. Three years ago I took advantage of our Co-Op's offer to sign up for wind generated power at $0.08 KWh. The cost hasn't changed more than a tenth of a cent during those three years. If I'd remained on the standard plan I'd be paying close to $0.10 KWh right now. Still a relative bargain, but I prefer what I've got - for obvious reasons.
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According to TXU, I paid $0.138/KWh last month.
Wind power; I'm impressed! Per T. Boone Pickens: "I'm so green, I look like a gourd..." 
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05-27-2008, 03:57 PM
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[quote=REWahoo;661775]That's where I'm very fortunate. Three years ago I took advantage of our Co-Op's offer to sign up for wind generated power at $0.08 KWh.quote]
I locked into a 5 year contract last spring for $0.07/kWh. I'm now glad I did because they're offering the same 5 yr contract at $0.08/kWh today.
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05-27-2008, 04:26 PM
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According to the electric bill I just got today, I used 749 kWh from 4/18 through 5/19.
The "energy charge" is $42.10 so that must be $0.056/kWh
The fuel adjustment is $40.15 at $.05381/kWh.
The 2005 FRP Refund (whatever that is) is -$4.23, so my total bill is $78.02.
Certainly more than last month, but I can't complain. 
Does your $0.08/kWh include the fuel adjustment? I suspect that it does, in which case it's a LOT better rate than I am getting.
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05-27-2008, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Want2retire
According to the electric bill I just got today, last month I used 749 kWh.
The "energy charge" is $42.10 so that must be $0.056/kWh
The fuel adjustment is $40.15 at $.05381/kWh.
The 2005 FRP Refund (whatever that is) is -$4.23, so my total bill is $78.02.
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You think slicing it into two pieces will make the $0.10417/kWh total charge look better? Remind me again, where did you go to school? 
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05-27-2008, 04:45 PM
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Uh...  $0.10417? That would be 3 parts.
Well that really sux, if your $0.08/kWh includes fuel adjustment. You are doing well in comparison with rates here!
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05-27-2008, 05:36 PM
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Well that really sux, if your $0.08/kWh includes fuel adjustment.
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Yep, it does. I pay $0.017 for the 'Availability Charge' (infrastructure, transmission lines, etc.) and $0.063 for 'Wind Power'.
But you have an excellent point as you have to include all (three, four, etc.) charges to get an apples to apples comparison of what you're paying per kWh.
Speaking of that..
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I locked into a 5 year contract last spring for $0.07/kWh. I'm now glad I did because they're offering the same 5 yr contract at $0.08/kWh today.
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That's an outstanding rate. Does that include all charges for your electrical service, including power generation, fuel, infrastructure, transmission, etc.?
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05-27-2008, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by REWahoo
That's an outstanding rate. Does that include all charges for your electrical service, including power generation, fuel, infrastructure, transmission, etc.?
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I wish! That's only the energy charge. D&T are separate charges ($17.88 last month) plus some other minor charges like admin fee, etc. Our TOTAL electricity cost was $63.01 last month.
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05-27-2008, 11:07 PM
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You didn't invest any sweat equity into that heat source did ya T-Al?
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05-28-2008, 01:14 AM
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I pay $0.08 per kWh, everything included. It was $0.07/kWh last year and $0.065/kWh the year before.
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05-28-2008, 02:59 AM
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i pay .20kwr in our new york home and .10 kwr in our pa. home
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05-28-2008, 06:47 AM
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Al, you must be a real pioneer type chopping all that wood! That's a lot of hard work and I'm impressed.
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05-28-2008, 06:58 AM
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Wood works so well, keeps you physically fit and warm. FREE!
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05-28-2008, 07:01 AM
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As the old saying goes, "wood heats you twice".
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05-28-2008, 07:24 AM
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Last 12 months:
Electric $869.91
Natural Gas $1,878.10
Hot water, clothes dryer, stove, are gas and there is a gas fireplace which DW sometimes uses although I try to discourage that. She won't turn on the fan in it (too noisy she says) so most of the heat goes outside.
The bills don't say - at least on the parts here - what the rates are.
Glad we don't live in the New England states!
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05-28-2008, 08:12 AM
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It's true it take a lot of time to manage the wood. I can only split for two hours at a time, and there's a lot of work in moving it around (the current year's wood gets moved into the shelter, for example). But it's good exercise and a nice excuse to be outside. It wouldn't be feasible if I were still working.
We used about four cords this year. So far -- I'm sitting in front of a fire now.
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05-28-2008, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Thisissogreat
Wood works so well, keeps you physically fit and warm. FREE!
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Yeah? Well what about all the pollution it creates? Not to mention how dangerous fires are! Didn't your house burn down once already?
Some people never learn... 
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05-28-2008, 09:38 AM
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I stopped looking at the electric rates a while ago, but they are in the .15 to .20 per kwh range. I pay extra for a "green" power blend, since the more I learn about coal the less I want anything to do with burning it.
We have an early 90s vintage heating oil-fired furnace. There is nothing wrong with it and it will probably last another 20 years, but I believe the last efficiency test came out at 83% or so. How would we go about making some kind of rational decision as to whether to switch to natural gas heat?
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