|
|
01-05-2011, 08:43 AM
|
#141
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,483
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by obgyn65
Hello FinanceDude - Yes I am but 1) my professional and volunteering activities do not leave me much time to study stocks 2) I am very risk averse.
|
Understood, but I would look at putting 15-20% in a conservative balanced fund or something...maybe VWINX or something?
__________________
Consult with your own advisor or representative. My thoughts should not be construed as investment advice. Past performance is no guarantee of future results (love that one).......:)
This Thread is USELESS without pics.........:)
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
01-05-2011, 08:53 AM
|
#142
|
Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Boston
Posts: 620
|
Just checked ... 18.5%
|
|
|
01-05-2011, 09:02 AM
|
#143
|
Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 939
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyounge1956
I don't know how to figure out my portfolio returns for last year, because I had a big single contribution to my Roth IRA when I cashed in an Ameriprise VA, rolled it into my other IRA and closed the Ameriprise account. I'm not sure I could figure out the performance on my 457 either, because the amount of my contributions changed during the year. That may happen again this year and I don't know how to take it into account. I have a program in my trusty ol' HP41s that does financial calculations, but it will only take equal payments, and I don't know how to set up a spreadsheet to track this. What do I need to do this year so next January I'll be able to answer the question?
|
One simple thing is to use a planning program like Quicken and if you're okay with it, download the transactions. I enter them manually (paranoid).
You can also add up all your investments right now to get a starting point. Then add them up Jan 1 of next year. See how much more you have. Take into account additions you made to your 401k or whatever. The rollover would have been included in the total anyhow.
This is the low tech, seat of the pants approach - no formula...
Personally I use Quicken (used to use MS Money but it went away so I converted the data into Quicken...). It gives good and easy stats.
I also have a massive spreadsheet giving the original price, dividends, yield on original price... I don't know what good it is, but at least I can see what the dividend was when I bought a stock.
__________________
I used to be “Thinker25” here. Retired at 62, now 73 (in 2021), no regrets & single again. I love it. I’m in RI.
|
|
|
01-05-2011, 10:07 AM
|
#144
|
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Oahu
Posts: 26,860
|
Are you the guy who bought the call from me, too? Good move!
Back in July, when it was trading at $57/share, I got greedy and sold a Feb '11 covered call with a $64 strike. I got a whole $2.72/share in premiums and was pretty happy at the time, but now of course I've given up another ~$6 in upside.
The good news is that I would've sold the shares to rebalance back then anyway at $57 so I got a total of over $9/share upside (and two dividends) by selling the call.
I sell covered calls when it seems to make sense, and I sell when shares get fully valued, but I think my shorting days are behind me.
__________________
*
Co-author (with my daughter) of “Raising Your Money-Savvy Family For Next Generation Financial Independence.”
Author of the book written on E-R.org: "The Military Guide to Financial Independence and Retirement."
I don't spend much time here— please send a PM.
|
|
|
01-05-2011, 10:24 AM
|
#145
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 7,746
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nords
Are you the guy who bought the call from me, too? Good move!
|
Nope, just the IJS. April 8, 2010 is what fidelity says. I thought it had done better than what I actually did, which is a little over 10% return. Not quite the 20%+ that SCV as a category did in 2010.
Still very happy with 10%.
__________________
Retired in 2013 at age 33. Keeping busy reading, blogging, relaxing, gaming, and enjoying the outdoors with my wife and 3 kids (8, 13, and 15).
|
|
|
01-05-2011, 05:40 PM
|
#146
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by kumquat
Health care is not free. I pay a lot of tax to pay for it. If the potion of my income tax since I was 21 that went to health care was returned to me and I had to pay for all of my families health care, my NW would be about 50% higher.
Sorry, just a DB DC pension (that is 60% my money) worth about 17% of NW.
You could check this post. If you PM me, I'll tell you what X is.
Edit to correct DB to DC.
|
I should have put the word "free" in quotes. Yes, there is never a free lunch. But having a "prepaid" health plan should greatly ease one's concern about its future cost, which was my point.
I appreciate your offer to share your number, but I dunno. Is it going to help me towards my goal of a monkish life? Probably not.
PS. In case any of you wonder, it is not likely I can become an ascetic. Joking about becoming a monk is simply a way for me to remind myself to avoid a further slide into the philistine camp.
__________________
"Old age is the most unexpected of all things that happen to a man" -- Leon Trotsky (1879-1940)
"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
|
|
|
01-05-2011, 06:16 PM
|
#147
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: midwestern city
Posts: 4,061
|
I apologize FinanceDude. I am financially illiterate. What is VWINKS and why do you recommend this product ? Is it FDIC insured like CDs ? Can I buy this product at Edward Jones or Vanguard where I have savings in money markets ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by FinanceDude
Understood, but I would look at putting 15-20% in a conservative balanced fund or something...maybe VWINX or something?
|
__________________
Very conservative with investments. Not ER'd yet, 48 years old. Please do not take anything I write or imply as legal, financial or medical advice directed to you. Contact your own financial advisor, healthcare provider, or attorney for financial, medical and legal advice.
|
|
|
01-05-2011, 07:51 PM
|
#148
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,224
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by obgyn65
I apologize FinanceDude. I am financially illiterate. What is VWINKS and why do you recommend this product ? Is it FDIC insured like CDs ? Can I buy this product at Edward Jones or Vanguard where I have savings in money markets ?
|
VWINX is Vanguard's Wellesley fund https://personal.vanguard.com/us/fun...FundIntExt=INT. It is an "income oriented balanced fund" and is one of a few actively managed funds at Vanguard and contains ~ 40% stocks, ~60% bonds and has done modestly well for a long period of time. Some here have varying amounts in their portfolio. It is frequently brought up when people don't want to spend time building a portfolio or rebalancing etc as the managers at Vanguard will take care of it for you.
You will also see it posted as "Psst... Wellesley" This was a frequent response by long time poster Uncle Mick when providing investment guidance.
DD
__________________
At 54% of FIRE target
|
|
|
01-05-2011, 08:53 PM
|
#149
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Cooksburg,PA
Posts: 1,874
|
17.4%!
Free to canoe
|
|
|
01-06-2011, 10:00 AM
|
#150
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 83
|
Yikes! I just did my math, go me!
Jan - Jul 12%
Aug - Dec 18%
Annualizes out to 31%.
I am quite heavy in commodities.
75/25; 25% of my 75% equities is in gold/silver/uranium
I split my returns into two pieces, pre and post retirement. Not that my allocations changed much, but I wanted to see the difference.
I had planned to buy my way into more bonds, but the last 2 months of the bond market have made my butt clench...
|
|
|
01-06-2011, 10:34 AM
|
#151
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Southern California
Posts: 489
|
17%.
|
|
|
01-06-2011, 11:22 AM
|
#152
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,224
|
Just checked, the Vanguard portion: 15.3%
As I also hold some at Fidelity and about a third of the portfolio at Scottrade in equity ETF's it will be somewhere north of that. I don't focus as much on the returns as on the FIRE # so don't try to calculate a total XIRR or some variation thereof. Currently ahead of schedule by about a year!
DD
__________________
At 54% of FIRE target
|
|
|
01-06-2011, 12:09 PM
|
#153
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 119
|
Finally got off by b*tt and rolled my three accounts together.
14.2% with a 74/26 stock/bond portfolio. I'm pretty happy with that. Kind heavy on stocks now that I look at it.
|
|
|
01-06-2011, 12:37 PM
|
#154
|
Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 748
|
Newbie question: When looking at the DW 401k options, there is two stock growth funds, one has a return of 12%, the other 14%. It looks like over history (>10 years) the latter fund has out performed the first by 2% continually (even losing 2% less during the down years) anyhow, is the expense ratio/mgmt fees deducted/included in the posted return?
And for that matter is the management fee included in the expense ratio or do you add the two to get total fees?
The fund that is continually 2% ahead costs almost 1% more.
__________________
I don't want to spend my entire life at work. I deserve more. - Want2retire aka W2R
|
|
|
01-06-2011, 06:21 PM
|
#155
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sarasota, FL & Vermont
Posts: 36,375
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnieboy
Newbie question: When looking at the DW 401k options, there is two stock growth funds, one has a return of 12%, the other 14%. It looks like over history (>10 years) the latter fund has out performed the first by 2% continually (even losing 2% less during the down years) anyhow, is the expense ratio/mgmt fees deducted/included in the posted return?
And for that matter is the management fee included in the expense ratio or do you add the two to get total fees?
The fund that is continually 2% ahead costs almost 1% more.
|
Reported fund returns are typically after asset management fees and expenses, so the information you are looking at should be comparable. Interesting that the latter fund is consistently 2% better, but perhaps they are truly better stock pickers (or the first fund are worse stock pickers). How do the long term returns of each fund compare to the benchmark returns for similar growth stocks?
|
|
|
01-06-2011, 06:27 PM
|
#156
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Texas: No Country for Old Men
Posts: 50,022
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnieboy
Newbie question: When looking at the DW 401k options, there is two stock growth funds, one has a return of 12%, the other 14%. It looks like over history (>10 years) the latter fund has out performed the first by 2% continually (even losing 2% less during the down years)...
|
What are the names of these two funds - or are they proprietary to her 401k?
__________________
Numbers is hard
|
|
|
01-06-2011, 06:46 PM
|
#157
|
Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 748
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by REWahoo
What are the names of these two funds - or are they proprietary to her 401k?
|
Getting some more info...Her 401k is through Fidelity and they have grouped them together as *large cap stock fund*, but they are different as one is 80% in the S&P 500 (FUSEX) expense ratio 0.10%
Benchmark-similar to S&P (and that is expected with being 80% the same).
2nd one, better return, is a growth fund (FDGRX) expense ratio 0.93%
Comparing to benchmarks at 1yr, 3yr, 5yr, 10yr it is always higher than the Russell 3000 growth by as little as 0.5% (3yr mark) to 3% (1yr mark)
__________________
I don't want to spend my entire life at work. I deserve more. - Want2retire aka W2R
|
|
|
01-06-2011, 07:10 PM
|
#158
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Texas: No Country for Old Men
Posts: 50,022
|
FUSEX is Fidelity's S&P 500 index fund while FDGRX is a managed growth fund. That would explain the difference in expense ratios. Whether the managed fund will continue to outperform the index by sufficient margin to overcome the added cost is anyone's guess.
__________________
Numbers is hard
|
|
|
01-09-2011, 09:01 AM
|
#159
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 350
|
I made a fortune in companies that dismantle bank signs and ones that made "For Rent", "For Lease", and "For Sale" signs. This year I plan on adding companies that clean up after arson fires, and tow truck operators who have contracts to repossess cars. ;-)
|
|
|
01-09-2011, 09:39 AM
|
#160
|
Confused about dryer sheets
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: SW Idaho
Posts: 6
|
13.8% overall
I have money all over the place and need to balance and consolidate. I also need to self direct and get away from the brokerage.
I have 16% in direct equities
5% cash
14% in direct money markets and CDs
23% in Russell Family of funds
42% in other various funds, bonds,equities,Asian,emerging markets, income
__________________
Mike
Retired at 57, now the work begins
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
» Quick Links
|
|
|